Tim, By "creator of copyright material" you are probably referring to your open source work. I too am of a similar mold, though I do not share your way of thinking. I think Chris Wilson's views best sum up my own thinking. If we pounce at the slightest whiff of infringement we risk killing off stuff that's in the public interest. As such, I've learnt to lighten up a little.
P. On Aug 12, 2010, at 11:11, Peter Kyoma wrote: > Simon, your assertion seems highly implausible. Citation needed. > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Simon Mutama <[email protected]> wrote: > Tim, > > Sadly the reality is that artists in the other EA countries are > envious of their counterparts in Uganda. Skewed as the law and the > situation may be. > > Simon > > On 10/08/2010, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well Mike, all the time sites like Badru's are used to stifle > > innovation in the creative arts, this country will remain in the back > > woods. My argument is simple, we should take the lead in encouraging > > creative arts, in encouraging innovation. Not simply to say that theft > > of copyright is common place so lets all do it. > > > > If I was a performing artist in Uganda I would move to Kenya, or > > Tanzania, or Rwanda, where my rights are respected. > > > > But I am never going to convince you guys of this. I think the fact is > > I am a creator of copyright material, whereas you are users of > > copyright material and this gives us different perspectives on the > > issue. > > > > On 10/08/2010, Mike Barnard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > On 10/08/2010, Mike Barnard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Kenya has got very stringent IPR and Copyright laws, which came about > >> due to > >> > > the growth of their industry, whether artistic or in the engineering > >> field. > >> > > -- > >> > > Mike > >> > > > >> > > >> > I believe you have this the wrong way around. Kenya has a strong > >> > artistic industry because they have the laws in place to protect the > >> > rights of the artists, not the other way around. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> I say this and stand by it because I was there, physically when these laws > >> were made, dealt with the riots by kiosk owners whose CD's were set ablaze > >> and them not understanding that what they had done was wrong. They came up > >> as a result of what we are experiencing in Uganda. The laws were NOT there > >> before, they were drafted only after people, like you and I, woke up and > >> lobbied the house to enact laws that protect their work. This is what we > >> have been *screaming* about here. The industry across the border continued > >> to grow despite the piracy. When it had the muscle to make the noise, it > >> did > >> and laws were put in place. > >> > >> Allow the industry in Uganda to grow as we make *noise* about enacting > >> laws > >> that will protect the works being produced. It makes no sense for us to > >> first stop coming up and implementing brilliant ideas such as Badru's > >> while > >> we wait for a law to be enacted, which may take a long time. > >> > >> Please note that while we may have signed treaties to ensure that certain > >> copyright laws are upheld from a foreign nation, our priority remains, as > >> a > >> sovereign nation, with our laws. If no one from the MPAA comes to Uganda > >> to > >> complain about the 40 movies in 1 CD being sold in Kisementi, no one in > >> Uganda will because it is NOT a law here yet. This is NOT condoning the > >> abuse of ones rights, its just that we do not have it in our laws yet. > >> > >> Tim, I'd like to clarify something, no one is disagreeing with you on IPR > >> and copyrights. What we are trying to point out is this, we do not have > >> any > >> such laws in Uganda that will work like you want them to. We are still > >> developing them. While we develop these laws, we cannot and should not > >> stifle ideas on this basis. We *must* encourage growth of our industry as > >> we > >> work out the laws. > >> > >> I want my ideas and IP to be protected, but I know very well that with our > >> current laws, there is little (much improved from the 1964 act) that will > >> protect me. I *must* continue to have these ideas produced as I and many > >> others lobby for better laws to be enacted. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Mike > >> > >> Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in > >> a million chances happen 99% of the time. > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> LUG mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >> > >> LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > >> All Archives can be found at > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> > >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > >> attachments if any). 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