Well said Markus, Most companies that do not have Cisco or Cyberoam security systems are indeed using *nix systems for firewall, Gateway, etc. services.
Regards, Polycarp -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Markus A. Wipfler Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 11:00 AM To: Uganda Linux User Group Subject: Re: [LUG] Does Uganda have a demand for Linux Administrators? > Interesting if you join a company you can convince them to migrate to > Linux Why would you do that??? Imagine you are the new sys admin at xyz company in charge of backend services running enterprise microsoft software like Exchange, Active Directory, Sharepoint which are used by hundreds or thousands of users. Now since you love linux and believe that linux is like a super patch that fixes any computer problem, you suggest to management that you want to migrate all backend services to linux. I am not saying its impossible but is it feasible? You can drive your car with your feet but it does't necesarily make it a good idea. What I am saying is that just using Linux for Linux sake is plain stupid. Remember a couple of years ago Germany's government tried to make a switch to Linux (backend + frontend) which sadly failed and now they are back to running windows. The problem in their case basically boiled down to 3 issues: - hardware support (too many printers, scanners, etc.. just didn't work when they where plugged into linux desktops / laptops and the amount of support and time required to make them work) - interoperability (its hard migrating away from proprietary software, especially Ms Office / Exchange combo) - training and user adoption (reluctancy of staff to use new, unfamiliar software, cost / time of training staff) As far as I can see the best chance linux (AND Linux Admins) have here in Uganda is in the market of SoHo and SME's. Here Linux could be used as a cost effective and even superior alternative to propriatary software with a relatively low learning curve for end users. (Employes still use outlook, ms office but with linux backend, firewall, router, directory service, intra/extra net,etc.) IMHO Linux will always be a niche OS. Why blindly advocate it to everyone? It reminds me of some saved people I know, who believe everyone else is going straight to hell if you don't join them. LOL. Regards, -- Markus > > If you fail to do so, blame yourself > > In my local language there's a saying "bamusella omukatale yatongana > noruguddo" literally translated as "he was charged high prices at the > market and he is now quarrelling with the road > > If you are referring to job posting s advertising for Microsoft skills > that's another issue > > This issue is actually a side show > What is more important is to promote Linux on a bigger scale in > government, schools, private sector and non profits > > Of course outfits like LUG have tried but with dismal results > > Sometime back I wrote how entities like LUG, IT companies can work > together and promote Linux but I guess my proposal fell on deaf ears > > LUG meetup s are good but most times when I look at the agenda, it s > not different from a pastor preaching to a choir > > > "Stephen S. Musoke" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ronald, >> >> >> >> You are wrong. Windows flourishes because it is already at the >> desktop, so is much easier to integrate at the Server end. Truth be >> told, Windows is becoming better at the backend and is also very good >> at integrating with Linux/Unix (MSFT/Novelle) partnership. >> >> >> >> You will not find a truly homogenous environment, you will find >> Windows for File/Print/Active Directory and *nix at the database and >> application server levels, and in virtualized applicatons. >> >> >> >> Stephen >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Ronald Kato Odongo >> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:37 AM >> To: Uganda Linux User Group >> Subject: Re: [LUG] Does Uganda have a demand for Linux Administrators? >> >> >> >> It would be be up to us interested in Linux administration to go out >> and offer it as an alternative to Windows. Windows is flourishing due >> in part to ignorance about Linux technologies. If we pushed Linux >> harder into the market, then the market would realize it's enormous advantage over windows. >> Sometimes the best products are ignored because not enough has been >> put in promoting them. >> >> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Robert Muwanga <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On a curious note, I have seen a lot of companies that utilise >> Microsoft Server backend systems but unless it is the big telco boys >> (and banks) I haven't heard of an interest in Linux for either >> backend or front end in Uganda in particular. >> >> So, the question is, what's people's opinion with regards on the >> demand for Linux in Uganda? is it rising? is it shrinking or >> stagnant? And in effect, what is the demand for Linux administrators in the country? >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> [email protected] Mailing list archives: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> (including attachments if any). 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The mailing list host is not responsible for them in any way. > _______________________________________________ > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > [email protected] Mailing list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). 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