At a guess, I'd say the router would need to support extending existing networks. The easiest way to make sure of this is of course to refrain buying anything which doesn't support OpenWrt/DD-WRT/Tomato or similar. These projects all have HCLs to aid people when buying. Do you agree, Reinier?
IP designation could be a problem. A central DHCP server would very soon get clogged. But each router could have its own subnet, I suppose, and with some elementary routing everyone would be able to communicate anyway. Then we would need some kind of central subnet assignment authority, which is possible but a bit self-limiting. One solution would be to make the network IPv6-only. That way, people could just grab a subnet at random, and the risk of collisions would be minimal. Decentralisation would lead to less hampered growth, since the extension of the network would not depend on one single authority. On 21 May 2012 13:33, <[email protected]> wrote: > @Reinier > :) could you provide a clear standard on which this project would be based > in case of interest before talking to and trying to convince the hood to > set up the access points? > For example: > What kinda wireless point devices (probably 802.11 base stations) do they > need to shop for? > > How do the wireless base stations connect to each other, ie the ones in > Muyenga finding their colleagues in Kamwokya or Ntinda or Mbarara, or > Mukono, or Makerere or etc? > > Are the interconnections kinda point coordination function to a central > 802.11 station acting as the "mtso" or some kinda distributed coordination > function amongst the base stations themselves or both configs are > possible? > > Won't there be ip conflicts? > > What local mirrors do we intend to maintain and set up for the local > Reinier Network? (yahoo.ug, hotmail.ug, utube.ug, .....) > > How does the Reinier network interface with other service provider > networks? > Will the Reinier Network allow mobile devices? (of course it will, will > the mobile devices be able to run local skype calls or other kinda ip > based telephony; you know where am heading....) > > Thanks. > > > Kamwokya as a pilot village sounds perfect to me, as I happen to live > > (well, stay) and work there :) I think WOUGNET would be willing to > > participate, with some lobbying from yours truly. > > > > It would be nice to have a more surveyable means of communication for a > > project such as this. Have we launched a forum yet? > > > > On 30 April 2012 13:37, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Man Kamwokya alone can pilot this! Let us look at wifi range and how > >> many > >> can participate. > >> If we can get one freenet village, then really hype it, we can get many > >> others and soon the > >> villages will be able to interconnect! > >> :-) openmaps, some costings, a little arm twisting and we are good to > >> go. > >> Another village could > >> be makerere university and other campuses. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf > >> Of Reinier Battenberg > >> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:17 > >> To: Uganda Linux User Group > >> Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Yeah, i was answering like 5 different emails in one, this thread is > >> going > >> so fast :-) > >> > >> A freenet is a pretty cool idea. With the amount of IT companies in > >> Kamwokya, it might even work there for starters. > >> > >> rgds, > >> reinier > >> > >> > >> On Monday 30 April 2012 13:05:45 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: > >> > Of course, if we *could* have it connected to the Internet, then great > >> > success. But it is not an absolute necessity for dissemination of > >> > large files. Actually, if this idea would become popular enough to > >> > *rival* large repeated Internet downloads (with large repeated profits > >> > for the ISPs), then perhaps the ISPs would lower their prices or start > >> > giving us price reductions for local traffic, as the alternative for > >> > them would be not to gain any profit at all. > >> > > >> > On 30 April 2012 13:02, Benjamin Tayehanpour > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > > Ah, I think you misunderstood my idea. My idea is to have access > >> > > points which are not connected to the Internet at all. No ISP > >> > > involvement needed. Rather, they are just interlinked with each > >> > > other and with some kind of server for storage and retrieval of ISOs > >> > > and such. Think of it as an eternal LAN party. > >> > > > >> > > On 30 April 2012 12:56, Markus A. Wipfler <[email protected] > >> >wrote: > >> > >> It would be great to have a mirror plugged into the UiXP switch. > >> > >> (Not sure if that is what Reiner is already doing…) That way ISPs > >> > >> only have to deal with their own customers traffic. > >> > >> The harder part is convincing ISPs to price differently based on > >> > >> (local) > >> > >> destinations. > >> > >> > >> > >> WiFi offloading customer data traffic makes sense to an Operators > >> > >> (to free up congested Cellular networks) but they will still charge > >> > >> you to access their network. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Markus > >> > >> > >> > >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Yes, why not? :) Which service provider would you think would be > >> > >> easier to convince? Do we have any influential ISP people on the > >> > >> list? > >> > >> > >> > >> Barring that: How about creating one (or several) Wi-Fi hotspots > >> > >> which have uncapped local-network access to a local repository? I > >> > >> have been toying with the idea for quite some time, and it should > >> be > >> doable. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 30 April 2012 12:24, Jake Markhus <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> Let us try to convince the service provider to bill ONLY for last > >> > >>> mile but host the mirror free. That way it is always up to date > >> > >>> and will incite us to pay (less hopefully) to download the stuff > >> > >>> they have.**** > >> > >>> > >> > >>> ** ** > >> > >>> > >> > >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >> > >>> *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour > >> > >>> > >> > >>> *Sent:* 30 April 2012 11:55 > >> > >>> *To:* Uganda Linux User Group > >> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [LUG] New Mirror**** > >> > >>> > >> > >>> ** ** > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Actually, several mirrors is not a bad idea. Or at least making > >> > >>> sure the one mirror has several means of being connected to the > >> > >>> Internet. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I wonder if we could convice one of the ISPs that it would be a > >> > >>> great sales pitch to offer free traffic for its customers to an > >> > >>> in-house mirror? **** > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On 30 April 2012 08:58, Reinier Battenberg < > >> > >>> [email protected]> wrote:**** > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> 1 mirror is plenty for Uganda. Rather make sure this mirror works > >> > >>> well, than have 5 half-baked ones. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> (And this is a good time for me to delete some isos from our > >> server. > >> > >>> happy > >> > >>> someone is taking over. great job!) > >> > >>> > >> > >>> reinier**** > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 08:29:05 Jake Markhus wrote: > >> > >>> > This mirror is FABULOUS!! I agree MUK should come on board! Can > >> > >>> > we > >> > >>> > >> > >>> convince > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > ISPs to provide hosted mirrors as well? > >> > >>> > Or can we have one mirror at the ixp? > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >> > >>> > On > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Behalf Of > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > Wilson > >> > >>> > Sent: 30 April 2012 08:24 > >> > >>> > To: Uganda Linux User Group > >> > >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > Great news!! Only wish MUK also could follow suit and publish > >> > >>> > its > >> > >>> > >> > >>> mirror on > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > the internet. > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hari Kurup > >> > >>> > <[email protected]> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> > Great news but can't help notice that you are missing the most > >> > >>> > popular linux distro on the planet - aka Linux Mint! (at least > >> > >>> > according to http://distrowatch.com ) > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > -- > >> > >>> > Hari > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > On Sun, April 29, 2012 11:01 pm, [email protected] wrote: > >> > >>> > > Hello Members, > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > Just to let you know, our (UCU) local mirror is beginning to > >> > >>> > > take > >> > >>> > >> > >>> shape. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > > for access visit http://mirror.ucu.ac.ug. > >> > >>> > > Most of the distributions are done syncing with the exception > >> > >>> > > of FreeBSD, Debian, OpenSUSE. > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > Send any feedback to [email protected] > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > thanks > >> > >>> > > Alex > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > ----------------------------------------- > >> > >>> > > This email has been sent with the following Disclaimer. > >> > >>> > > http://www.ucu.ac.ug/disclaimer.txt. > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > >>> > > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >> > >>> > > [email protected] > >> > >>> > > Mailing list archives: > >> > >>> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >> > >>> > > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >> > >>> > > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >> > >>> > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >> > >>> > > > >> > >>> > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > >> > >>> > >> > >>> (including > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > > attachments if any). 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