RokeTelkom would be my first try. On 21 May 2012 14:17, Benjamin Tayehanpour <[email protected]>wrote:
> I suppose we could try approaching another ISP. I haven't had much luck > speaking with ISPs here in general, since they do not seem to know their > trade. On the other hand, that much could be said of many ISPs in Sweden as > well. Which ISP do you think would be most positive to this idea? > > > On 21 May 2012 14:01, Simon Vass <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Sounds like a metronet. A few have been built in Berlin and similar using >> off the shelf Ubiquity radio's for example. Problem here is they cost far >> to much once imported due to the various import taxes. >> >> One model is for people to host wireless AP's on there existing network, >> they are then the ones providing the interlinks. Look at open-mesh for the >> type of kit you could use here. >> >> Otherwise it all sounds like basically setting up another ISP. Could an >> existing one be approached? One which already has fibre connectivity in >> those areas and is looking and already adding wireless to it's network? >> >> >> Simon Vass >> Managing Director >> E-Tech Uganda Ltd >> >> http://www.etech.ug >> Tel: +256 (0) 312260620 or (0) 312260621 >> email: [email protected] >> skype: e-techservicedesk >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Benjamin Tayehanpour" <[email protected]> >> To: "Uganda Linux User Group" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2012 1:45:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror >> >> >> At a guess, I'd say the router would need to support extending existing >> networks. The easiest way to make sure of this is of course to refrain >> buying anything which doesn't support OpenWrt/DD-WRT/Tomato or similar. >> These projects all have HCLs to aid people when buying. Do you agree, >> Reinier? >> >> IP designation could be a problem. A central DHCP server would very soon >> get clogged. But each router could have its own subnet, I suppose, and with >> some elementary routing everyone would be able to communicate anyway. Then >> we would need some kind of central subnet assignment authority, which is >> possible but a bit self-limiting. One solution would be to make the network >> IPv6-only. That way, people could just grab a subnet at random, and the >> risk of collisions would be minimal. Decentralisation would lead to less >> hampered growth, since the extension of the network would not depend on one >> single authority. >> >> >> On 21 May 2012 13:33, < [email protected] > wrote: >> >> >> @Reinier >> :) could you provide a clear standard on which this project would be based >> in case of interest before talking to and trying to convince the hood to >> set up the access points? >> For example: >> What kinda wireless point devices (probably 802.11 base stations) do they >> need to shop for? >> >> How do the wireless base stations connect to each other, ie the ones in >> Muyenga finding their colleagues in Kamwokya or Ntinda or Mbarara, or >> Mukono, or Makerere or etc? >> >> Are the interconnections kinda point coordination function to a central >> 802.11 station acting as the "mtso" or some kinda distributed coordination >> function amongst the base stations themselves or both configs are >> possible? >> >> Won't there be ip conflicts? >> >> What local mirrors do we intend to maintain and set up for the local >> Reinier Network? ( yahoo.ug , hotmail.ug , utube.ug , .....) >> >> How does the Reinier network interface with other service provider >> networks? >> Will the Reinier Network allow mobile devices? (of course it will, will >> the mobile devices be able to run local skype calls or other kinda ip >> based telephony; you know where am heading....) >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> > Kamwokya as a pilot village sounds perfect to me, as I happen to live >> > (well, stay) and work there :) I think WOUGNET would be willing to >> > participate, with some lobbying from yours truly. >> > >> > It would be nice to have a more surveyable means of communication for a >> > project such as this. Have we launched a forum yet? >> > >> > On 30 April 2012 13:37, Jake Markhus < [email protected] > wrote: >> > >> >> Man Kamwokya alone can pilot this! Let us look at wifi range and how >> >> many >> >> can participate. >> >> If we can get one freenet village, then really hype it, we can get many >> >> others and soon the >> >> villages will be able to interconnect! >> >> :-) openmaps, some costings, a little arm twisting and we are good to >> >> go. >> >> Another village could >> >> be makerere university and other campuses. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On >> Behalf >> >> Of Reinier Battenberg >> >> Sent: 30 April 2012 13:17 >> >> To: Uganda Linux User Group >> >> Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Yeah, i was answering like 5 different emails in one, this thread is >> >> going >> >> so fast :-) >> >> >> >> A freenet is a pretty cool idea. With the amount of IT companies in >> >> Kamwokya, it might even work there for starters. >> >> >> >> rgds, >> >> reinier >> >> >> >> >> >> On Monday 30 April 2012 13:05:45 Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: >> >> > Of course, if we *could* have it connected to the Internet, then >> great >> >> > success. But it is not an absolute necessity for dissemination of >> >> > large files. Actually, if this idea would become popular enough to >> >> > *rival* large repeated Internet downloads (with large repeated >> profits >> >> > for the ISPs), then perhaps the ISPs would lower their prices or >> start >> >> > giving us price reductions for local traffic, as the alternative for >> >> > them would be not to gain any profit at all. >> >> > >> >> > On 30 April 2012 13:02, Benjamin Tayehanpour >> >> < [email protected] >wrote: >> >> > > Ah, I think you misunderstood my idea. My idea is to have access >> >> > > points which are not connected to the Internet at all. No ISP >> >> > > involvement needed. Rather, they are just interlinked with each >> >> > > other and with some kind of server for storage and retrieval of >> ISOs >> >> > > and such. Think of it as an eternal LAN party. >> >> > > >> >> > > On 30 April 2012 12:56, Markus A. Wipfler < >> [email protected] >> >> >wrote: >> >> > >> It would be great to have a mirror plugged into the UiXP switch. >> >> > >> (Not sure if that is what Reiner is already doing…) That way >> ISPs >> >> >> >> > >> only have to deal with their own customers traffic. >> >> > >> The harder part is convincing ISPs to price differently based on >> >> > >> (local) >> >> > >> destinations. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> WiFi offloading customer data traffic makes sense to an Operators >> >> > >> (to free up congested Cellular networks) but they will still >> charge >> >> > >> you to access their network. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Regards, >> >> > >> >> >> > >> -- >> >> > >> Markus >> >> > >> >> >> > >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Yes, why not? :) Which service provider would you think would be >> >> > >> easier to convince? Do we have any influential ISP people on the >> >> > >> list? >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Barring that: How about creating one (or several) Wi-Fi hotspots >> >> > >> which have uncapped local-network access to a local repository? I >> >> > >> have been toying with the idea for quite some time, and it should >> >> be >> >> doable. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> On 30 April 2012 12:24, Jake Markhus < [email protected] > >> wrote: >> >> > >>> Let us try to convince the service provider to bill ONLY for last >> >> > >>> mile but host the mirror free. That way it is always up to date >> >> > >>> and will incite us to pay (less hopefully) to download the stuff >> >> > >>> they have.**** >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> ** ** >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] >> >> > >>> *On Behalf Of *Benjamin Tayehanpour >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> *Sent:* 30 April 2012 11:55 >> >> > >>> *To:* Uganda Linux User Group >> >> > >>> *Subject:* Re: [LUG] New Mirror**** >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> ** ** >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> Actually, several mirrors is not a bad idea. Or at least making >> >> > >>> sure the one mirror has several means of being connected to the >> >> > >>> Internet. >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> I wonder if we could convice one of the ISPs that it would be a >> >> > >>> great sales pitch to offer free traffic for its customers to an >> >> > >>> in-house mirror? **** >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> On 30 April 2012 08:58, Reinier Battenberg < >> >> > >>> [email protected] > wrote:**** >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> 1 mirror is plenty for Uganda. Rather make sure this mirror works >> >> > >>> well, than have 5 half-baked ones. >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> (And this is a good time for me to delete some isos from our >> >> server. >> >> > >>> happy >> >> > >>> someone is taking over. great job!) >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> reinier**** >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> On Monday 30 April 2012 08:29:05 Jake Markhus wrote: >> >> > >>> > This mirror is FABULOUS!! I agree MUK should come on board! Can >> >> > >>> > we >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> convince >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> > ISPs to provide hosted mirrors as well? >> >> > >>> > Or can we have one mirror at the ixp? >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] >> >> > >>> > On >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> Behalf Of >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> > Wilson >> >> > >>> > Sent: 30 April 2012 08:24 >> >> > >>> > To: Uganda Linux User Group >> >> > >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] New Mirror >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > Great news!! Only wish MUK also could follow suit and publish >> >> > >>> > its >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> mirror on >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> > the internet. >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hari Kurup >> >> > >>> > < [email protected] > >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> wrote: >> >> > >>> > Great news but can't help notice that you are missing the most >> >> > >>> > popular linux distro on the planet - aka Linux Mint! (at least >> >> > >>> > according to http://distrowatch.com ) >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > -- >> >> > >>> > Hari >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > On Sun, April 29, 2012 11:01 pm, [email protected] wrote: >> >> > >>> > > Hello Members, >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > Just to let you know, our (UCU) local mirror is beginning to >> >> > >>> > > take >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> shape. >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> > > for access visit http://mirror.ucu.ac.ug . >> >> > >>> > > Most of the distributions are done syncing with the exception >> >> > >>> > > of FreeBSD, Debian, OpenSUSE. >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > Send any feedback to [email protected] >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > thanks >> >> > >>> > > Alex >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > ----------------------------------------- >> >> > >>> > > This email has been sent with the following Disclaimer. >> >> > >>> > > http://www.ucu.ac.ug/disclaimer.txt . >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >> >> > >>> > > The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> >> > >>> > > [email protected] >> >> > >>> > > Mailing list archives: >> >> > >>> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> >> > >>> > > Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> >> > >>> > > To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> >> > >>> > > http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> (including >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> > > attachments if any). 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The mailing list host is not responsible for them in >> any way. >> _______________________________________________ >> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >> >> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >> [email protected] >> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >> >> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >> >> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including >> attachments if any). 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