Hi Howard:

I agree with you.  I do not think having all Lute tablature converted to
staff notation will do much to aid the growth of the Lute, making its music
more available.  Tablature is, after all, as near perfect a system for
notating music written for a stringed and fretted instrument that can be
imagined.  All ambiguities about position on the neck and appropriate
strings are eliminated.  Only voicing remains hidden within.  Another point
to consider is the actual visible content the music will display in staff
notation.  I am sure most of us have seen Milano's works published in staff
notation. If I were new to the guitar and looked through some of that stuff
I seriously doubt that I would be in a giant hurry to try much of it.  It is
very playable when it is pointed out to you the relative timing and the
actual playing positions. This is the advantage of Tablature, staff notation
demands that you figure it out for you on your own.  Remember, we are not
talking about arrangements with editorial notes and fingering notes,  just
the difference in notation.

Vance Wood.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Posner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: Size of the lute world


> Matanya Ophee at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > The lute has never been like any of the other instrument. It was always
on
> > the outside looking in, and as the Sieur Perrine noted in 1697, it will
> > always continue to be there, as long as lutenists insist on a notational
> > system that is not shared by other musicians. There is no reason to
believe
> > that the lute in our time will be more successful in reaching the status
of
> > the piano, or even that of the guitar, different than it was at any
other
> > time in history.
>
>
> For centuries the lute was so much on the inside that it didn't even have
to
> bother looking out.  It was so widespread that the idea of playing its
music
> on some other instrument hardly needed to be discussed.  Some of the very
> first published music was in Italian tablature, showing that it was one of
> the first recognizable markets.  Similar evidence can be found in the
bursts
> of lute song publications in England and France after 1600--nobody seemed
to
> think it necessary to publish keyboard versions.  Even Morley, who did not
> play the lute, evidently wrote in staff notation but published transcribed
> tablature versions: this is evidence that it was staff notation, not
> tablature, that was considered a barrier to wide dissemination.
>
> We have to remember that lute players, then as now, could read staff
> notation, and played continuo from the first days of continuo, and often
> played obbligato parts, like those by Bach, Handel and Vivaldi, from staff
> notation.  They did not have to write solo music in tablature, but chose
to
> do so because the system was useful.
>
> Matanya's article on tablature transcription
> (http://www.orphee.com/trans/trans.html#FN3REF) says the comments of
Perrine
> in 1697 and François Campion 1716 were "an indication of a general
feelings
> [sic] of malaise regarding tablature."  This strikes me as too sweeping a
> statement based on too little evidence.  Tab was alive and well in the
18th
> century, appearing even in Telemann's Getreue Music-Meister, a publication
> not directed at lutenists, by a savvy marketer.
>
> I'm not sure whether Matanya means to say that the lute will never reach
the
> status of the  piano or guitar if its music is not made available in
modern
> notation (which I suspect is his meaning), or whether it will never reach
> that status in any case (which is what he wrote); but in either case he's
> correct.  There's no reason to think that every other house on the block
> will ever have a lute in it, regardless of how much music is transcribed.
> If modern notation were the key to mass appeal, there would be a billion
> harpists in the world.
>
> The phenomenal and continuing growth of the lute (measured by number of
> players, concert ticket and CD sales, prominence of the better players,
> sales of instruments) in the last few decades, and the way it has been
> achieved, contradicts the notion that tablature has hindered that growth.
> I'm sure nearly all of us came to the lute after hearing lute music played
> from tablature (I'm guessing two thirds were Bream converts) and found
that
> learning French tab was vastly easier than learning to drive a car or use
a
> computer.  Certainly it's easier than learning an instrument or earning
the
> money to buy it and string it.
>
>
> Howard Posner
>
>
>


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