Yes both Caroso books are avaiable on the LoC site. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Katherine Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Arthur Ness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Stung Again
> Make that four: > Caroso puplished two books, one in 1580, and a second > in 1600 (republished > preiodically until the 1630s). "Nobilta di Dame" calls > itself a 'second > edition' of 'Ballarino', but almost every dance is > either new or much > altered, and some of the steps have changed (the music > is usually the same, > though). > > There are also a raft of less well known dance > manuals, mostly Italian, from > the mid-16th to the early 17thC - Compasso, Lutii, > Lupi, Santucci, De > Lauze, piles of letters, papers, odd MSS with a > hald-dozen dances (such as > the Chigi MS) . . . and on and on. There are even some > sources for English > dancing - the Gresley MS (probably about 1500); and a > pile of MSS related to > the Revels at the Inns of Court (from laet 16th to > mid-17thC), some with > music attached. > > So: Italian dances from the late renaissance are > extremely well documented > (though with some gaps, of course); French dances less > so, but enough that > we have a pretty good idea of what they looked like; > we know little of the > nuances of English dancing (as we have only personal > notes, not didactic > treatises), but more than a dozen intelligible > choreographies survive with > music. And as there were Italian dance-masters all > over Europe, there was > probably Italian dancing all over too. > > For the record: there would be a small but very eager > and appreciative > market amongst early dancers for any lutenist who were > to record Caroso's > and Negri's music with a tempo repeat structure to fit > their choregraphies. > > best wishes, > Katherine Davies > > > On 4/2/07, Arthur Ness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> All three )Arbeau, Caroso and Negri) are available >> on-line from the Library of >> Congress: >> >> http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/dihtml/diessay2.html >> >> And for Caroso there is Julia Sutton's translation >> and >> edition, _Courtly Dance of the Renassnce_ (Dover, >> 1995), >> with labanotation >> for the dance steps.. >> >> Some dance steps are shown on video from the LofC: >> >> http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/dihtml/divideos.html >> >> You, too, can learn how to dance a pavane and >> galliard, >> or a >> quadrille and Schottische >> >> ==ajn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ed Durbrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Herbert Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; >> "LuteNet >> list" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 3:20 PM >> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stung Again >> >> >> > Around Dowland's time there were at least three >> > major >> > treatises on >> > dance: Coroso, Negri, Arbeau, the first two written >> > in >> > lute tab with >> > mensural notation for melodies and often bass >> > lines. >> > They explain how >> > to do the steps and lay out whole dances set to >> > specific music. The >> > dances and steps are open to interpretation in the >> > same way that >> > musicians have different opinions on tempos, >> > ornaments >> > etc. >> > You could probably find much information about it >> > through Google. >> > cheers, >> > >> > On Apr 2, 2007, at 3:39 AM, Herbert Ward wrote: >> > >> >> To what degree are the historical dances >> >> preserved? >> > >> > Ed Durbrow >> > Saitama, Japan >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/ >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > To get on or off this list see list information at >> > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >> > >> >> >> >
