Martin
        I think quick and rather careless reading throughof this dialoque  
between yourself and Ed, brought me to the conclusion that you were  
suggesting Dowland might have gone from 7c to 9c.
Nevertheless, i knew I had read something that gave me that idea:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg18164.html

Then again you underlined the importance of the 9c here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/lute@cs.dartmouth.edu/msg10564.html

I do tend to jump to conclusions, but that is because I always try to  
link up various remarks and ideas to draw conclusions, and  
occasionally, I wire them up the wrong way.
Sorry for jumping to conclusions
Anthony


Le 3 avr. 08 =E0 12:29, Martin Shepherd a ecrit :

> Dear Anthony and All,
>
> I assume the "Martin" you refer to is me.  I don't remember ever  
> saying that I thought Dowland changed from 7c to 9c without ever  
> using an 8c, or that any of these changes coincided with his change  
> from TI to TO.  We simply don't know the answer to any of these  
> questions.
>
> I do think it likely that the change from TI to TO is related to  
> the increase in number of courses, and also to the change in  
> musical style from equal-voiced polyphony to a more treble-and-bass  
> style.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Martin
>
> P.S.  A 10c can always be retuned to look like a 9c lute, but with  
> a 10/11c lute you have to change the nut and all the strings - not  
> something you want to do every week.  Well, actually you could  
> compromise on absolute pitch and leave the 5th to 10th courses as  
> they are, putting thicker strings on the first four courses to  
> allow them to be tuned down.  Just to make this clear, imagine your  
> 10c lute is in nominal A, so the 6th course is the same as in the  
> Dm tuning 11c version:
> 10c ----> 11c
> 1. a'              f'  (down a major third)
> 2. e'              d' (down a tone)
> 3. b               a (down a tone)
> 4. g               f  (down a tone)
> 5. d              d
> 6. A             A
> 7. G             G
> 8. F              F
> 9. E              E
> 10.D             D
> 11.                C
>
> If you did this with a 67cm lute you would probably be tuning the  
> top string to f' in the old tuning so in the new tuning it would be  
> d' flat, a very low pitch for this string length.
>
>
> Anthony Hind wrote:
>
>>
>> However, I was mainly thinking about your decision not to change  
>> to  TI, and I wonder whether Dowland
>> did not change to TO at the same time as he took up the 9c, as  
>> Martin  claims he did (I mean take up the 9c, never adopting the 8c),
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
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