I have the feeling that he uses music to create an image that feeds with obviously huge ego. I do not buy it, not musically nor "lutenistically" and most of all artistically.
On Dec 5, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: > I find Edin's style totally dignified, > in partucular when compared with, say, Mark Wheeler's. > RT > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandros Tzimeros" <sarab...@otenet.gr> > To: "Edward Mast" <nedma...@aol.com>; <e...@gamutstrings.com>; "Roman > Turovsky" <r.turov...@verizon.net>; "Anthony Hind" <agno3ph...@yahoo.com> > Cc: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:40 AM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Karamazov > > >> It's a pitty. >> Such a good player and he insists on all these funny theatrical expressions >> and kitchy video clips. >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Hind" <agno3ph...@yahoo.com> >> To: "Edward Mast" <nedma...@aol.com>; <e...@gamutstrings.com>; "Roman >> Turovsky" <r.turov...@verizon.net> >> Cc: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:32 AM >> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Karamazov >> >> >>> Great musicians often have an amazing presence on stage, but this can >>> be with minimal gesture. Their very presence takes complete control of >>> the theatrical space. >>> $ >>> However, it could be argued that there are differences in the way >>> certain cultures approach this question. I recently saw the Kronos >>> quartet in combination with the Ensemble Alim Qasimov from Azerbajan. >>> They were dialoguing musically together, and although the Kronos are >>> into such fusion, nevertheless the emotional expressivity of the >>> Azerbajanis made them look a little stilted. >>> The words of Alim Qasimov are clear on that subject: "The words of >>> these songs are very simple. We give them feelings, we try to infuse >>> them with excitement and tension." >>> Nevertheless, the emotions on the face of Alim look in no way "put-on", >>> They are a necessary part of his performance, which does not "feel" to >>> be the case with Edin & Amira (although, I am quite willing to accept >>> that they mzy well have roots in such a tradition). >>> $ >>> This recording shows the first contacts between Kronos and the >>> Azerbaidjanis: >>> [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHMpmB4olbA&feature=related >>> One very interesting piece was evoking the neighing of a young horse on >>> instrument and voice. >>> However, in spite of the quality of the performance, the Azerbaijani >>> players in no way compromised themselves in catering for Western >>> tastes. The result is that about a quarter of the French audience >>> walked out noisily during their performance in Paris, showing in my >>> opinion, their complete musical ignorance. I am willing to bet that no >>> such walk out would occur with Edin and Amira, but they do seem to be >>> doing their best to "cater"... >>> $ >>> On the other hand, I watched an amazing film of Ravi Shankar dialoguing >>> musically with his daughter, extremely moving, but in spite of his >>> almost mystical involvement in his music, there were no unnecessary >>> emotional affects. >>> [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG2moqxqIaE&feature=related >>> Regards >>> Anthony >>> ---- Message d'origine ---- >>> >De : "Edward Mast" <nedma...@aol.com> >>> >A : "wikla" <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> >>> >Objet : [LUTE] Re: Karamazov >>> >Date : 05/12/2010 02:04:33 CET >>> >Copie `a : "Roman Turovsky" <r.turov...@verizon.net>; >>> > "Lutelist" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>> > >>> >"Just my problem. . .". No, a problem for at least me too. The >>> question of >>> > how much musical performance is theatre, is always to be considered. >>> I >>> > prefer less theatre. >>> > Ned >>> > On Dec 4, 2010, at 5:16 PM, wikla wrote: >>> > >>> > > On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:23:56 -0500, "Roman Turovsky" >>> > > <r.turov...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> > >> [3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLoX2TTAig >>> > > >>> > > His strong movements, his gestures while playing, are quite >>> disturbing to >>> > > me. Just my problem, I guess and also admit. It would be easier to >>> me to >>> > > listen to his very musical playing without the video showing his >>> > suffering >>> > > face. I do know that certain amount of theatre of showing that you >>> feel >>> > > deeply is necessary - it is an important part of the show. But to >>> me - my >>> > > problem as I wrote - in this performance the amount of "deep >>> feeling >>> > > gestures" harmed severely getting the message. >>> > > >>> > > Arto >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > To get on or off this list see list information at >>> > > [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> >>> References >>> >>> 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHMpmB4olbA&feature=related >>> 2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG2moqxqIaE&feature=related >>> 3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLoX2TTAig >>> 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/%7Ewbc/lute-admin/index.html >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
