He indeed cashed in with Sting! ;) A. On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:53 PM, G. Crona wrote:
> I'm not fond of theatrics myself, but take a look at almost ANY concert > pianist. It seems almost to be expected there. Can you really blame a poor > lutenist for wanting to cash in on the hype? > > G. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfonso Marin" <luten...@gmail.com> > To: "lutelist Net" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 1:45 PM > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Karamazov > > >> I have the feeling that he uses music to create an image that feeds with >> obviously huge ego. I do not buy it, not musically nor "lutenistically" and >> most of all artistically. >> >> On Dec 5, 2010, at 12:50 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: >> >>> I find Edin's style totally dignified, >>> in partucular when compared with, say, Mark Wheeler's. >>> RT >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandros Tzimeros" >>> <sarab...@otenet.gr> >>> To: "Edward Mast" <nedma...@aol.com>; <e...@gamutstrings.com>; "Roman >>> Turovsky" <r.turov...@verizon.net>; "Anthony Hind" <agno3ph...@yahoo.com> >>> Cc: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 6:40 AM >>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Karamazov >>> >>> >>>> It's a pitty. >>>> Such a good player and he insists on all these funny theatrical >>>> expressions and kitchy video clips. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anthony Hind" <agno3ph...@yahoo.com> >>>> To: "Edward Mast" <nedma...@aol.com>; <e...@gamutstrings.com>; "Roman >>>> Turovsky" <r.turov...@verizon.net> >>>> Cc: <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:32 AM >>>> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Karamazov >>>> >>>> >>>>> Great musicians often have an amazing presence on stage, but this can >>>>> be with minimal gesture. Their very presence takes complete control of >>>>> the theatrical space. >>>>> $ >>>>> However, it could be argued that there are differences in the way >>>>> certain cultures approach this question. I recently saw the Kronos >>>>> quartet in combination with the Ensemble Alim Qasimov from Azerbajan. >>>>> They were dialoguing musically together, and although the Kronos are >>>>> into such fusion, nevertheless the emotional expressivity of the >>>>> Azerbajanis made them look a little stilted. >>>>> The words of Alim Qasimov are clear on that subject: "The words of >>>>> these songs are very simple. We give them feelings, we try to infuse >>>>> them with excitement and tension." >>>>> Nevertheless, the emotions on the face of Alim look in no way "put-on", >>>>> They are a necessary part of his performance, which does not "feel" to >>>>> be the case with Edin & Amira (although, I am quite willing to accept >>>>> that they mzy well have roots in such a tradition). >>>>> $ >>>>> This recording shows the first contacts between Kronos and the >>>>> Azerbaidjanis: >>>>> [1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHMpmB4olbA&feature=related >>>>> One very interesting piece was evoking the neighing of a young horse on >>>>> instrument and voice. >>>>> However, in spite of the quality of the performance, the Azerbaijani >>>>> players in no way compromised themselves in catering for Western >>>>> tastes. The result is that about a quarter of the French audience >>>>> walked out noisily during their performance in Paris, showing in my >>>>> opinion, their complete musical ignorance. I am willing to bet that no >>>>> such walk out would occur with Edin and Amira, but they do seem to be >>>>> doing their best to "cater"... >>>>> $ >>>>> On the other hand, I watched an amazing film of Ravi Shankar dialoguing >>>>> musically with his daughter, extremely moving, but in spite of his >>>>> almost mystical involvement in his music, there were no unnecessary >>>>> emotional affects. >>>>> [2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG2moqxqIaE&feature=related >>>>> Regards >>>>> Anthony >>>>> ---- Message d'origine ---- >>>>> >De : "Edward Mast" <nedma...@aol.com> >>>>> >A : "wikla" <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> >>>>> >Objet : [LUTE] Re: Karamazov >>>>> >Date : 05/12/2010 02:04:33 CET >>>>> >Copie `a : "Roman Turovsky" <r.turov...@verizon.net>; >>>>> > "Lutelist" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> >>>>> > >>>>> >"Just my problem. . .". No, a problem for at least me too. The >>>>> question of >>>>> > how much musical performance is theatre, is always to be considered. >>>>> I >>>>> > prefer less theatre. >>>>> > Ned >>>>> > On Dec 4, 2010, at 5:16 PM, wikla wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > > On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 11:23:56 -0500, "Roman Turovsky" >>>>> > > <r.turov...@verizon.net> wrote: >>>>> > >> [3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmLoX2TTAig >>>>> > > >>>>> > > His strong movements, his gestures while playing, are quite >>>>> disturbing to >>>>> > > me. Just my problem, I guess and also admit. It would be easier to >>>>> me to >>>>> > > listen to his very musical playing without the video showing his >>>>> > suffering >>>>> > > face. I do know that certain amount of theatre of showing that you >>>>> feel >>>>> > > deeply is necessary - it is an important part of the show. But to >>>>> me - my >>>>> > > problem as I wrote - in this performance the amount of "deep >>>>> feeling >>>>> > > gestures" harmed severely getting the message. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > Arto > > > > To get on or off this list see list information at > http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
