Thank you Mathias Indeed I noticed the gallichon tuning, and wrote: "Interestingly one tuning on fol 6 is given as for the 'Calledono' which I presume refers to the gallichon thus once again showing an interchange in usage between the mandora and gallichon - though the tuning given is not one I recognise from other sources".
Regarding the headfing on 48v, does it actually read 'et'? I see 'A' which is why I wrote: "whatever this meant to the scribe"! Though I suppose it could simply be a shorthand for 'et' - but I didn't wish to rule out the possibility that it implied a joint name for a single instrument ie perhaps a guitar in mandora shape ( or even mandora in a guitar shape). Other than body shape, the big difference between the E tuned 5 course mandora and the guitar is how the basses are disposed: ie bourdons on lower courses with octave strings placed on the treble side. However, I don't think we should rule out the possibility that by the early 18th century octave strings were also placed on the treble side on many guitars. In my view contemporary sources such as the Deisel MSs work best with this arrangement. But mere speculation of course...... Martyn --- On Mon, 26/3/12, Mathias RAP:sel <mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote: From: Mathias RAP:sel <mathias.roe...@t-online.de> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tablature Mandore Guitare To: "'Lute Dmth'" <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Date: Monday, 26 March, 2012, 16:38 > The tablature is for guitar or mandora (a 6th course is required on the > earlier folios). Folio 48r shows the tuning with a 6th course (at nominal G ie a tone > below the 5th course) so this certainly looks like mandora music. The intervals > between the highest five courses is identical on both instruments and most of > the pieces could be played on the 5 course guitar too. Did you note the instructions on fol. 24 seqq? They are obviously intended for the 5c calichon, tuned g - d - Bb - F - C. > In this context the heading on fol. 48v is very interesting 'Accordo > Chytarra A Mandora' aEUR" whatever this meant to the scribe. As I said, the headline reads: Accordo ChytarA| et MandorA|, meaning "tuning of the guitar and the mandora". Mathias To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html