Jim was one of these rare birds - a very fine musician AND a respected musicologist.
Bill From: Edward Mast <nedma...@aol.com> To: William Samson <willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: Lute List <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Wednesday, 28 March 2012, 13:45 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Right hand plucking position - was Re: Quality vs Quantity Hi Bill, Certainly Jim Tyler would be the most well known (at least as a performer) of Iadone's students. But I don't know if there is any similarity in playing styles - I haven't really heard Tyler. Chris williams studied with Iadone and recorded a bit with the NY Pro Musica, as did Lucy Cross. But Iadone was a unique musician; the only comparisons that come to mind are musicians such as Art Tatum or Oscar Peterson. He developed that kind of rhythmic excitement. I attended some of the summer music workshops that he directed, and never had a lute lesson or heard a lute solo. All ensemble work, singing, theory, or lute songs, and of course faculty and student concerts - but no solos. A different emphasis. Best, Ned On Mar 28, 2012, at 3:18 AM, William Samson wrote: > Hi Ned, > It looks like quite an independent strand of development of lute technique was developed by Iadone, likely starting with the same sources as Poulton used. I think Diana Poulton and Susanne Bloch became great friends in the '60s, but I could have my date wrong there. Diana did attend at least one LSA get-together. > I would guess Iadone's influence on this side of the Pond mostly came via his student, the great Jim Tyler, who lived in London for many years. > I wondered if Paul O'Dette had studied lute with him, but as far as I can see the only lutenist teacher mentioned in his resume is Eugen Dombois - yet another strand! > Best regards, > Bill > > From: Edward Mast <[1]nedma...@aol.com> > To: William Samson <[2]willsam...@yahoo.co.uk> > Cc: Lute List <[3]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu> > Sent: Tuesday, 27 March 2012, 21:36 > Subject: [LUTE] Re: Right hand plucking position - was Re: Quality vs Quantity > > Fortunately, I think, Iadone had no teacher (of lute) . He was from quite a different musical and lute 'family' than Dolmetsch and Poulton; no relation to Dolmetsch, I would say, and only a very distant relation to Poulton. > > Best, > > Ned > On Mar 27, 2012, at 3:02 PM, William Samson wrote: > > > I couldn't agree more, Ned. But Schaeffer was the one who successfully proselytised and tipped the balance. > > > > Even before Iadone there was Arnold Dolmetsch - a flesh-plucking-pinky-on-bridger, uncontaminated because he learned straight from the sources and didn't play classical guitar first. Here's an image of him around 100 years ago: > > [4]http://tinyurl.com/ccmoxu6 > > > > He went on to teach Diana Poulton, who went on to teach . . . almost everybody! > > > > Regards, > > > > Bill > > > > > > > -- > > To get on or off this list see list information at > [5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html > > -- -- References 1. mailto:nedma...@aol.com 2. mailto:willsam...@yahoo.co.uk 3. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://tinyurl.com/ccmoxu6 5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html