Dear Tom,

   I play mostly solo and in duo, that's not just because I like it but
   above all for financial reasons. Sure, a big ensemble will appeal to
   more people, however, who's going to pay the bill?

    Some on this board have even put forth the notion that "duos don't
   draw audience, but trios or more will".

   2013/8/5 <[1]t...@heartistrymusic.com>

        Back to the original premise:
           > The problem is lack of support - if not outright
           > hostility - from the "mainstream" classical music
     establishment.
           > While my perception of what I and other early music
     performers do
           > is that we play classical music, many, many "official"
     classical
           > musicians do not share this view.
          I have run into this dilemma trying to program early music as a
        board member for a small-town local non-profit that presents a
        series of "classical" music concerts.  The attitude of
     violinists,
        etc.
        who prefer Brahms seems to be one of disdain for EM.
          While concert attendance in our community is totally
     unpredictable,
        these board members are all too ready to point to "lutes" as an
        example of low numbers, even though there have been lower
        numbers for 19th and 20th century concerts.  ( ... never mind the
        blizzard or sub-zero temperatures that probably had an impact! )
          Some on this board have even put forth the notion that "duos
     don't
        draw audience, but trios or more will".  There is absolutely no
     hard
        data to support this, but they believe it anyway, even though one
     of
        their pet performers (that happens to play a lot of Brahms)
        consistently draws well and is - a duo!
          Absurd, and one reason that I stepped down from that board.
        How can the early music community begin to change these
     perceptions?
          Tom Draughon
        Heartistry Music
        [2]www.heartistry.com
        Chris Wilke wrote:
           In America, I haven't found any lack of interest in lute or
     early
           music from the broader public. Many people who are intimidated
     by
           perceived ritual and stuffy atmosphere of standard classical
           concerts are drawn in by the look and sound of early
     instruments.
           Some marketers have recognized this: early music is quite well
           represented in classical music station playlists. (I've just
     been
           invited to give a one hour interview/lute performance on our
     local
           public radio station here in Rochester, for example.) My own
     solo
           concerts and performances by the student early music ensembles
     I've
           directed have drawn healthy crowds. This is good, but there
     are
           larger issues. The problem is lack of support - if not
     outright
           hostility - from the "mainstream" classical music
     establishment.
           While my perception of what I and other early music performers
     do
           is that we play classical music, many, many "official"
     classical
           musicians do not share this view. Indeed, at colleges where I
     was
           employed, significant public response was ultimately
     detrimental as
           it drew the flagrant ire of at least two tenured professors
     with
           great influence in the departments. Both of these professors
           actively petitioned against having any early music performance
           activities at their respective colleges, ostensibly on the
     grounds
           that it distracted students from giving full attention to the
           "real" program of instruction. (One of the professors had the
     gaul
           to tell me to my face, "You're not a real ensemble because you
           don't play in parts." WTF? The majority of what we performed
     was
           renaissance polyphony!) I think they were afraid we were
     making
           them look bad. Concerts were not free to the public; box
     office
           receipts showed that we were bringing in actual revenue. And
     maybe,
           just maybe, my esteemed senior colleagues were jealous also of
     the
           fact that students were learning and having fun. Oh well,
     those
           professors are still there doing the same old thing and I am
     still
           struggling very much to find work years later. Good for them.
     Chris
           Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
           Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
           [3]www.christopherwilke.com
           ----- Original Message -----
           From: gary <[4]magg...@sonic.net>
           To: lutelist <[5]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
           Cc:
           Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2013 4:06 AM
           Subject: [LUTE] Re: general public Lute awareness
           I got into early music 'cause I hate crowds. My jazz
     performances
           were attracting too many people. Of course, you heard about
     the
           lutenist who won the lottery. When asked what he was going to
     do
           with his winnings, he said, "I'm going to work 'til they run
     out."
           Early music, like jazz and chamber music, is a niche market.
     Upon
           being asked how one can make money in music, Henry Mancini
     said,
           "If you want to make money in music, go into band uniforms."
     Gary
           On 2013-08-02 05:17, [1][6]erne...@aquila.mus.br wrote: > I
     have done
           the same for a small baroque orchestra at the University > of
     Sao
           Paulo, USP, > with little gain as well. The  group has a lute
     and a
           theorbo in it. > Any hints are welcome. > We have thought
           everything from flash-mobs to pairing music with food, >
     theater,
           baroque dance, text, whatever... > So far our biggest hits
     have
           been opera and baroque dance, costly > events which we cannot
     do on
           a regular basis > due to budget size. > Ernesto Ett > 11-99
     242120
           4 > 11-28376692 > > > > On 31.07.2013, at 22:46, Bruno Correia
           <[2][7]bruno.l...@gmail.com> wrote: > >  Dear members of the
     list, > >
            I have been at pains trying to raise interest in our beloved
     >
           instrument down here in Brazil. I've given speeches, played
     solo
           and >  chamber concerts... but despite all efforts the general
           public and > also >  the musicians (professionals or amateurs)
           simply don't get turned on. >  It is a sad fact that the lute
     and
           the early music performance >  practice did not reach the
           University here. So we don't exist >  academically speaking. >
     >
           Would anybody be willing to list some strategies that could be
     used
           > to >  help disseminate the lute and its repertoire? >  -- >
           Bruno Correia > >  Pesquisador autonomo da pratica e
     interpretac,ao
           >  historicamente informada no alaude e teorba. >  Doutor em
           Praticas Interpretativas pela >  Universidade Federal do
     Estado do
           Rio de Janeiro. > >  -- > > > To get on or off this list see
     list
           information at >
           [3][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
           --
        References
           1. mailto:[9]erne...@aquila.mus.br
           2. mailto:[10]bruno.l...@gmail.com
           3. [11]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
        Tom Draughon
        Heartistry Music
        [12]http://www.heartistrymusic.com/artists/tom.html
        714  9th Avenue West
        Ashland, WI  54806
        [13]715-682-9362
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   --
   Bruno Correia

   Pesquisador autonomo da pratica e interpretac,ao
   historicamente informada no alaude e teorba.
   Doutor em Praticas Interpretativas pela
   Universidade Federal do Estado do Rio de Janeiro.

   --

References

   1. mailto:t...@heartistrymusic.com
   2. http://www.heartistry.com/
   3. http://www.christopherwilke.com/
   4. mailto:magg...@sonic.net
   5. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
   6. mailto:erne...@aquila.mus.br
   7. mailto:bruno.l...@gmail.com
   8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
   9. mailto:erne...@aquila.mus.br
  10. mailto:bruno.l...@gmail.com
  11. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
  12. http://www.heartistrymusic.com/artists/tom.html
  13. tel:715-682-9362
  14. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

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