Tony,

    I use thumb-under at the conclusion of Britten's "Nocturnal". The theme at 
the end, upon which the entire preceding work has been based is Dowland's 
"Come, Heavy Sleep".  Even with guitar nails, I have no problem doing a 
nail-less thumb under. This makes the renaissance piece contrast timbrically 
(is that a word?) from the rest of the piece. The end sounds dreamy, distant 
and resigned in a way that is very different from the unsettled portions 
before... just drifting off... Quite artistically effective, I believe.

Chris

Dr. Christopher Wilke D.M.A.
Lutenist, Guitarist and Composer
www.christopherwilke.com

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On Tue, 8/5/14, Tony <ascbrigh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 Subject: [LUTE] Re: those Pignoses!
 To: "Doug Asherman" <dashe...@sonic.net>, "lutelist Net" 
<Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
 Date: Tuesday, August 5, 2014, 5:34 PM
 
    Doug and Tobiah
    Just out of curiosity I attempted
 thumb-under lute technique on my CG.
    I needed to raise the pinky with a lightly
 stuck-on pencil eraser (due
    to the raised soundboard the strings are
 high). Apart from that, no
    problem, it was easy and sounded
 reasonably good though subdued.
  
    __________________________________________________________________
 
    From: Doug Asherman <dashe...@sonic.net>
    To: lutelist Net <Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
    Sent: Tuesday, 5 August 2014, 17:35
    Subject: [LUTE] Re: those Pignoses!
    On 8/4/14 6:12 PM, howard posner wrote:
    > On Aug 4, 2014, at 1:54 PM, Tobiah
 <[1]t...@tobiah.org>
 wrote:
    >
    > Our ears are in tune with a different
 set of practices
    > now (at least the general
 public).  Perhaps if we looked up from
    anthropology
    > It's not anthropology.  It's the
 instruction manual.  If you pay
    thousands of dollars for an instrument
 (and millions of dollars for
    strings), you should at least read it.
    >
    There's an instruction manual? Why am I
 spending all this money on
    lessons?
    As a long-time guitar player (~40 years)
 and a raw beginner on the lute
    (slightly more than a year), I'm in favor
 of the pinky on the
    soundboard
    position.  For me, at least, it makes
 rest strokes with the thumb
    easier; and a decent rest stroke with the
 thumb makes it easier to play
    a consistently strong melody line.
    I can't really discuss right and wrong
 technique here, since I am a
    beginner; I can only talk about what works
 for me. If I tried to play
    the lute the same way I play guitar, I
 wouldn't be making much
    progress.
    Doug
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 References
 
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