Thanks to all for thheir kind help. It seems there is no easy answer
   but that MUSESCORE2 might be suitable - but only if the original was
   created digitally in the first place - also other issues. Some of the
   scores I'm looking at currently are the Biber mass settings in the old
   (but still quite good) editions in the series [1]Denkmäler der Tonkunst
   in Österreich
   I guess from what is being said that these wouldn't work with MUSESCORE
   - but I'll certainly give it a whirl!
   Many thanks
   Martyn
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   Subject: Re: Re: Re: Creating a short score from pdf full score

   I think it was MuseScore that the Italian publisher used from my *.PDF
   input file.  It worked very well.  And was probably very easy.


   On 10/05/16, Ralf Mattes<[2]r...@mh-freiburg.de> wrote:

   Am Mittwoch, 05. Oktober 2016 16:54 CEST, Martyn Hodgson
   <[3]hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu> schrieb:
   > Thank you Arthur.
   > In fact chatting to an IT person earlier today they suggested GIMP
   > which seems to be much used for art work etc but they thought might
   > also be useful to move blocks of musical systems around. I've
   > downloaded it (it's free!) but the operation of the software isn't
   > obvious so I'll have to find precious time to understand it - unless
   my
   > son (now a Seattle resident) can explain it all to me when I next
   chat
   > with him...
   Please, don't use Gimp. It's a marvelous program, but not meant for
   that kind
   of job (and your "IT-person" should know ...) Gimp works on raster
   images
   only and will convert a pdf to a (set of) raster images. At that point
   you work with
   pixel data which will most likely look rather disapointing when printed
   at
   a different resolution.
   > Incidentally, Finale does have a free 'Notepad' version but this
   seems
   > very limited and unable (I think) to do the sort of cut and paste I
   had
   > in mind.
   Before you investigate further in Finale (a piece of crap IMHO) you
   might
   want to have a look at MuseScore ([4]https://musescore.org) - that'll
   probably
   give you more than you ever need, and the latest versions have pretty
   good
   support for lute tab.
   > Previously I've simply run off a photocopy and by using some
   > large paper shears and glue made a physical paste up - but the 160+
   > pages of the mass rather put me off this traditional technique -
   hence
   > the search for a digital alternative.
   The digital version of that would be to import our pdf into a vector
   drawing
   program (Adobe Illustrator, Inkscape etc.) but the quality of that
   import
   depends on the program that generated the pdf.
   Unfortunately, the only convincing path to solve your problem is to use
   the
   same program as the original typesetter (if you can get the original
   digital version,
   NO the pdf). Otherwise, a good pair of scissors IS an astonishingly
   effective tool :-)
   Cheers, Ralf Mattes
   > regards
   > Martyn
   >
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References

   1. http://imslp.org/wiki/Denkmäler_der_Tonkunst_in_Österreich
   2. mailto:r...@mh-freiburg.de
   3. mailto:hodgsonmar...@cs.dartmouth.edu
   4. https://musescore.org/
   5. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/

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