The bad news here is that Tristan was absolutely correct.

   A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
   The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
   Francisco Goya

   On Jan 3, 2018, at 7:25 PM, Roger Landes <[1]landesro...@gmail.com>
   wrote:

   Tristan von Neumann:
   Was this message meant to be private?  If it was then you owe all the
   members of this list an apology. But if you intended it to go to the
   entire list you should be banished by the the list administrators.
   Roger Landes
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   On 1/3/2018 8:16 PM, Tristan von Neumann wrote:

     Dumb people don't just get smart with the "right government", my
     friend...
     Your whole system is rotten, and believe you me, even some third
     party candidates would not have been able to make the great purge
     happen.
     Am 03.01.2018 um 19:51 schrieb John Mardinly:

         America, being in the throes of "Make America Great Again", is
         unfortunately in general hostile to any music that requires more
     than
         two brain cells to appreciate. Fortunately, there are some
     exceptions.
         A. John Mardinly, Ph.D., P.E.
         The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters
         Francisco Goya
         On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:32 AM, Ron Andrico
     <[1]praelu...@hotmail.com>
         wrote:
           Thank you for your New Year's greeting, Tristan.
           Much as I would wish the US early music scene to be otherwise,
     it is
           for the most part not what might be characterized as informal,
         inviting
           nor inclusive.  While there are a few soloists and ensembles
         attempting
           to perform in less traditional venues, the attempts are not
     really
           successful.  Ronn McFarlane did in fact play in a bar in
     Cleveland
           once.  I had lunch with him the following day and he reported
     that
           there were 10 people in attendance.
           I have written about this at some length and will continue to
     do so,
           but the early music scene in the US really caters to
           sit-down-and-shut-up audiences who are encouraged to
     participate in
           some weird fan worship culture.  There are a few exceptions,
     and
           Mignarda is definitely among the exceptions.  We make it a
     point to
           seek out non-traditional audiences, and we have deliberately
     been
           performing in a variety of smaller venues, restaurants, coffee
     shops,
           libraries and in house concert settings for most of our 15
     years as a
           duo.  We also perform in churches and the usual larger venues,
     but we
           like having contact with our audiences.
           I am of the opinion that early music will die out with the
     rapidly
           ageing baby-boom generation unless more of an effort is made
     on the
           part of performers to connect with people of all ages and
     backgrounds
           and encourage informal ensemble playing.  In the coming year,
     we will
           be initiating a series of local informal gatherings where
     amateurs
         and
           professionals can connect and share a love of making ensemble
     music.
           Wish us luck.
           RA
     __________________________________________________________________
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         behalf
           of Tristan von Neumann <[4]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de>
           Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 1:41 PM
           To: lutelist Net
           Subject: [LUTE] Early Music life
           Happy New Year to all who are on the European calendar.
           Here's one question - is there any noticeable Early Music life
     going
         on
           in your neighborhood, besides the 19th/20th century concert
     context
           (which I always find a bit awkward)?
           Ever heard of a bar where there are Early Music jam sessions?
           Have you ever seen Early music picknicks in the park or in the
     woods?
           Do you play table music at your own private dinner parties?
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