On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 10:46:58AM +0200, Chris Karakas wrote: > Georg Baum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb am 19.10.04 22:15:29: > > > > IMHO if a user can modify his SGML declaration he can as well edit layout > > files. The nonexpert user will just use what is there: the standard SGML > > declaration and the standard layout file, and they should match. If e.g. > > SuSE decide to ship a modified SGML declaration, we can as well expect > > that they ship a modified layout file. > > > > The non-expert user will use underscores in his labels and will not be amused > to see that they were transformed to something else without warning. > > Ah...Warning! > > How about a warning, to be output when LyX exports the file to DocBook? > Something like: > > About to export to DocBook...done > Warning: Character "_" in label "my_label" was transformed to dash: "my-label". > To leave "_" untouched, change the value of CNAME in xyz.layout.file to include "-".
I forgot to say this in my previous message. I'm in favour of warning display, with some small differences from what you say. We are getting there. ;-) Notice that it is not that simple. It is not enough to change the layout file. I propose to emit a warning if CNAME is different from the default and from "". You have to modify the SGML declaration file also. Also I will add a section about this to the LyX-Docbook FAQ. If some is puzzeled then that will be the first place to search. :-) It is always a matter of compromise. The funny part is that are pushing for the advanced users, but with some of your transformation scripts, this will work of the box for any user. I propose to let the curious user to know how to become advanced using the documentation, not the gui. > > > It all boils down to the question: do we do this through a dialog that > > will > > > manipulate the layout file, or do we expect the user who has such wishes > > to > > > be knowledgeable enough to know what he is looking for and start > > > tweaking the CNAME variable in some obsure file. > > > > Of course this should be documented. And who said that a graphical editor > > for layout files is a bad thing? > > > > I agree. How about this: > > Do it with the CNAME thing today, but add a Warning as above > for every label that was changed. > > Then add a "to do" item in the list of things to be done: > Program a graphical editor for layout files. That is fair. > That's general enough and would take care of all such cases where > the developers would rather have something done through a change in > the layout file and the users would rather tweak some option in a > graphical dialog. > > Then, for every change that is done by LyX (in labels, names, whatever), > add a Warning that says what LyX did and that the user can change it > by using the graphical layout editor. As thing to put in my todo list, it is acceptable, but I have more urgent tasks now such as integrate your scripts. :-) > -- > Regards > > Chris Karakas > http://www.karakas-online.de -- José Abílio Matos LyX and docbook a perfect match. :-)
