Hi all!
I'm a little late to the party here but this is the null modem cable
that I got from Monoprice a while back. It works great with a Belkin
USB->serial adapter, and it was under two bucks!
https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10212&cs_id=1021205&p_id=479&seq=1&format=2
I also use Linux, running minicom to communicate with my M100 on ttyd0.
From the command line:
rm /dev/ttyd0
ln -s ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyd0
minicom
-Roger
On 04/27/2017 06:54 PM, Paul Bucalo wrote:
I was going to bring it up. Before I posted I saw a reference online
to using PuTTY. I'll try all the terminal connection options to see
what works best for me. I work at the command line often, but with a
fading memory I will work with GUI front ends and apps if it's not
much more work. Thanks, Alex.
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Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables, specif
Serial to USB
The Linux version of PuTTY works nicely with serial ports.
On Apr 27, 2017 17:31, "Paul Bucalo" <pm...@aol.com
<mailto:pm...@aol.com>> wrote:
Thanks, Jonathon. I'm good on diagrams--I still have the original
manual, plus what I have scrounged through Club 100 and
after-market books. At least I know 'your' diagram really works.
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From: Jonathan Yuen <jonathan.y...@slu.se
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Hello again,
I found some notes and I hope it is the one I used:
DB9 DB25
Rx 2 Tx 2
Tx 3 Rx 3
Dtr 4 Dsr 6
Gnd 5 Gnd 7
Dsr 6 Dtr 20
Rts 7 Cts 5
Cts 8 Rts 4
1 8 I think I wrote DCD for this pin but I'm pretty sloppy
writing.....
Jonathan
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specif Serial to USB
I just did a search on eBay for a Belkin F3x171-10. Only listing
that came up was selling for $50. Yeah, not going to happen. I'll
look around to see if anyone sells the cable for a reasonable
price, but chances are high I'll end up making up a DB25-to-DB9
cable set. I sure wish I hadn't thrown out the one I made years
ago, back when I was actively working with my M100. Live and
(probably never) learn.
I'll give HTERM a try. I had forgotten about utf-8 coding. Thanks
for the reminder.
Thanks, John.
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From: John R. Hogerhuis <jho...@pobox.com <mailto:jho...@pobox.com>>
To: Model 100 Discussion <m100@lists.bitchin100.com
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Sent: Thu, Apr 27, 2017 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: [M100] Questions regarding Full Null Modem Cables,
specif Serial to USB
On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Paul Bucalo <pm...@aol.com
<mailto:pm...@aol.com><mailto:pm...@aol.com
<mailto:pm...@aol.com?>>> wrote:
I was hoping for a rationale based on experience, i.e., USB works
well or not at all. Doesn't really matter much. Most likely I will
make up a new cable using DB25-to-DB9.
My favorite cable is the full-null belkin serial laplink cable, if
you can find one. Never had a problem with any of them, ever.
f3x171-10, but they are hard to find these days though they were
very cheap for a while. To use with Model T, you need to have a
db-25 gender changer.
But generally, you need a full-null cable. I wouldn't go with 3
wire cables since you may want to experiment with hardware flow
control (HTERM, my bare bones / dumb terminal to Linux) given that
you hook to Linux which overruns the Model T 64-byte serial buffer
when using software flow control.
Also Linux utilities throw in UTF-8 and lots of formatting codes.
HTERM maps to/from utf-8 and strips ANSI color escapes, stuff like
that.
One thing to be aware of is some cables bump into the Model100
case and keep it from mating properly. You may have to shave some
off the housing to make it fit, or ideally find one that fits into
the space available, after adding the thin-hood gender changer.
USB on the PC side is fine. I recommend only devices with FTDI
chipsets, however (not Prolific). The FTDI drivers generally allow
more configurability which ends up being necessary with TS-DOS
(TS-DOS loves to time-out... remember USB serial devices have a
tendency to delay/collect bytes to "efficiently" send a larger
packet).
-- John.
