Hi Zack, Sarah, Geoff, Bryan, Dan, and Others, I'm not switched over to iCloud yet -- there are some items relative to MobileMe features that I still need to check out before switching over. However, apart from the issue of the busy screen at the sign-in for MobileMe, which I deal with by appending "/find" to the URL I go to, like Zack I can navigate the MobileMe web site to use "Find My iPhone" without problems. I've also done this with standard VoiceOver navigation, either classic keyboard commands or by using the TrackPad, and the address for the MobileMe web page I use to find my device is exactly what Apple outlines in their help information: "Go to me.com/find and sign in using your Apple ID email address and password."
I'll paste in below, the details I posted to another list back in June. Some of you will have seen this before in a post titled, "Using Find My iPhone from the MobileMe page on the Mac [was Re: Um, VO Doesn't Seem to Work with the Mobile Me Site?]". I can't comment on the iCloud site, since I'd have to kill off access to some of my MobileMe functions including features such as creation of email aliases to gain access to that site, but maybe these comments will help someone. Anyway, I'll outline how I access the "Find My iPhone" feature at MobileMe. I'm a MobileMe subscriber, but I assume it works the same way for folks who just register for "Find My iPhone". 1. Under VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8), I set my "Web" options to Navigate webpages by DOM order, and under the options for "When loading a new webpage" I have the box for "Move the VoiceOver cursor to it" checked. 2. Use the URL: http://www.me.com/find (Press Command-L to highlight the address bar, then type in "me.com/find" and press "Return" to go to the MobileMe site where you'll be positioned at the login text box) 3. In the login text box type in your username, press tab to move to the password text box, then press "Return" to log into the page for "Find My iPhone" 4. On the "MobileMe Find My iPhone" page, with QuickNav on (turned on or off by pressing the left and right arrow keys simultaneously), navigate (by pressing the right arrow key) to "Devices", then continue to navigate down the list to the iOS device you want to locate. There's an entry for the registered device (e.g., "Teresa's iPhone", "Esther's iPad", etc., followed by a location status (e.g., "Locating", "Located 1 minute ago", "No location available"). 5. Select the device you want to find from the "Devices" list by pressing the Up and Down arrow keys simultaneously (with QuickNav on) or with VO-Space. You can do this from either the device line or the location status line. The web page will update to display a map to the right of the "Devices" list with the location of your selected device shown. This is similar to the way your location is shown in the default "Maps" app on iOS devices. 6. Navigate to your selected device in the map view with item chooser menu (VO-i). This is the second entry in the list (e.g., if you typed "i p h" and got a list of two items, the first "Teresa's iPhone" is the entry in the "Devices" list; the second entry is device you found. Arrow down and select it by either pressing "Return" or VO-Space.) 7. Activate the selected device either by pressing the up and down arrow keys simultaneously (If QuickNav is on), or with VO-Space. 8. Navigate through the options with your Right arrow key. You'll hear the device named (e.g. "iPhone", "iPod Touch", "iPad"), location status (e.g. "Located 2 minutes ago"), followed by buttons for "Display Message or Play Sound…", "Lock…", and "Wipe…". 9. Activate the button you want by pressing the up and down arrow keys simultaneously or with VO-Space. Choosing the button to "Display Message or Play Sound…" brings up a dialog window with the box to "Play a sound for 2 minutes" checked. Pressing "Return" immediately activates this default selection, and will cause the selected device to play sonar pings as though from submarine sonar scans for two minutes, or until you find and deactivate the message on the screen (assuming your device has battery power left and is connected to the internet). Pressing "Escape" cancels the dialog window. (You can also navigate to the "Cancel" and "Send" buttons and press them with VO-Space or the Up+Down Arrow key combination). You can also type in a message to be sent and displayed on the screen of your device (e.g. "Please call this phone number…"). Comments: I find this all very accessible. The screen layout is fairly simple, and I was actually able to log in and navigate the MobileMe Find My iPhone screen in the Atomic Browser app on my iPad to confirm this layout. (For some reason Mobile Safari will not let you log into MobileMe pages from iOS devices.) I usually allow sufficient time for the device to be located before I select if for finding, since that's typically only 10 or 20 seconds. I also give the page a few seconds to load the map for the located device after I've selected it before trying to send the command to play a sound. (I haven't tried to use either the "Lock" or "Wipe" functions.) You can navigate to the located device with your right arrow key with QuickNav on, too. It's just that you'll hear VoiceOver announce a group of odd sounding blocks that are map image sections between the end of the "Devices" list and your selected device if you do that, but the page is perfectly explorable with VoiceOver navigation. Using item chooser menu, which can also be used to find "Devices" in step 4, is just slightly simpler and faster. There's also a button to refresh the page if you want to update your devices "Find" action. (I guess this could be useful if the iPhone was left in a moving car.) The map display is purely visual, with no coordinate information, but you could do a screen capture, either of the entire screen (Command+Shift+3) or just of the browser window, and attach it to an email to a sighted friend, asking them to tell you the location. Cheers, Esther On Oct 15, 2011, at 15:44, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Sarah and All, > I'm not sure why we are all having such different experiences with the > iCloud.com site, but I was just able to use FInd my iPod with no issues. > Signing in is accessible, and from then on all but one of the buttons I've > seen are labeled. > I just use the standard VO web navigation keys to get around, don't bother > with the rotor. > I think accusing Apple of not being committed to accessibility is a bit much. > Best, > Zack. > On Oct 15, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> No. When i did it i signed in but after that all i saw was button button >> button with no help tags. This is a shame as i thought apple was committed >> to accessibility. I guess not. >> On oct 15, 2011, at 6:06 Pm, geoff waaler wrote: >> >>> Hi Lynne, >>> >>> Like Bryan, I am getting absolutely nowhere attempting to use the iCloud >>> site. I've tried the latest webkit running under Lion 10.7.2 and all the >>> latest available WinXP browsers (IE8, Mozilla7, and GoogleChrome14). In >>> all instances my experience is pretty much as Bryan describes. I can not >>> set the region to anything other than the default of US Pacific time. As >>> you mentioned, the buttons are labeled, but I've not yet ascertained how to >>> activate them. >>> >>> My first objective was to use the "find my IPhone" feature to make my new >>> 4S emit a sound in the event that my golden ever decides to hide it. On >>> the Mac side I navigated to the "find my iPhone" button, disabled trackpad >>> commander, routed the mouse and verified that it was over the button and >>> clicked the trackpad. This essentially killed voiceOver as it presumably >>> could not deal with the resulting map?? When I finally got back to iCloud >>> the page had not changed. It appears to show my iPhone, but there is no >>> way to cause it to emit noise. >>> >>> I also tried everything including simulated mouse clicks on the windows >>> side, but no joy so far. Google didn't appear to hold any easily findable >>> solutions either. >>> >>> I hope I'm missing something, and perhaps you or someone can take a few >>> moments to describe how to navigate the iCloud site via voiceOver? >>> >>> Thanks and best regards. >>> Geoff >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith >>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >>> Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 3:00 PM >>> Subject: Re: iCloud versus MobileMe Web interface = Same old same old? >>> >>> >>> Hello Bryan >>> >>> If you simply scroll passed those unlabelled buttons you should find >>> labelled versions further down the page. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >>> On 14 Oct 2011, at 04:01, Bryan Jones wrote: >>> >>> Hi Folks, >>> >>> Subject line says it all, but I' hoping maybe I just missed something. Can >>> anyone else who previously used a mobile me account and is now using icloud >>> take a browse around the web interface and tell me if you're having any >>> luck? I'm getting a bunch of unlabeled buttons on the opening login screen, >>> a time zone picker that is inaccessible, and then what appears to be the >>> same old mobile me web apps that are not reporting anything in the web >>> rotor. >>> TIA, <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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