Hello Geoff, Esther and others, I'd like to thank all of you for your helpful information. Since I frequently travel to certain countries outside Austria (Germany, UK, France, etc) and only to three or four different states in the US, I think I will go the selective download route. It is nice to know that other apps developed specifically for blind people can simultaneously run in the background.
My thanks to all of you and best regards, Mike On 31,Jan,2012, at 9:32 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: > To expand on Esther's comments a bit, I intended to mention that beginning > with Navigon NorthAmerica version 2.0 (and presumably also the European > version) released last November, it is now possible to selectively install > maps by jurisdiction. > > Bare in mind that the mapping data for main stream products is compressed > much more (not to mention more current and less expensive to maintain) than > their humanware/SenderoGroup counterparts. To give you an idea of the > storage requirements, Navigon NorthAmerica's largest map is California taking > up 100.1 MB. Texas comes in second at 96.0 MB. As for Canadian provinces, > Ontario at 40.7 MB beats out Quebec by nearly 7MB. Most of the States and > provinces are smaller. I'll list a few so as to give you an idea: > DistrictOfColumbia=1.1MB > Maryland=15.7MB > Illinois=38.5MB > NewYork=43.8MB > NorthCarolina=45.3MB > Virginia=34.0MB > > So, you don't need the 64 GB model just to run GPS apps, though the larger > storage capacity is fun, and I'd rather have the problem of having to much > space <smile>. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Esther > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: Usable mainstream GPS on the iPhone? > > > Hi Mike, > > I agree with Geoff's comments and recommendations but there is one importatn > correction: MotionX GPS Drive is only available in the US There is another > app that they make, called MotionX GPS, that is available internationally and > that is often confused with the first product, but that does not have the > features that give turn-by-turn directions that Geoff is speaking of. So if > you want a GPS app that can be used in both the US and in Europe, you'll have > to choose Navigon. Also, you have to purchase separate apps for Navigon US > (or North America, or a region of the US) and for Navigon Europe (or a > specific country). The usage format is similar, but the map data is > different. The Navigon apps typically take about 1.5 GB each to download. You > need twice the space to unpack and update the app. > > I also agree that you'll want to get the free AroundMe app and/or Where To? > -- Discover your next destination ($2.99 from FutureTap). These have a much > better interface for searching for points of interest, which can then be sent > to the default Maps app, or Navigon, MotionX GPS Drive, TomTom, etc. They'll > list matches to your search terms in order of distance from your current > location or, you can set this to be a location from your contacts or that you > type in, if you're planning travel. These are great apps to have, even if you > don't have an iPhone or use GPS apps, and I used both on the iPod Touch > before I ever got an iPhone. The really useful function that was added to the > Where To app last July is the ability to use the built-in compass on an > iPhone or iPad with 3G, and update information on direction and distance as > you travel. So, for example, if you search for a restaurant, and then check > the detailed screen for your POI, near the top right corner of the screen, yo u > 'll hear something like, "Direction and distance, right, 240 yards", and this > will update as you travel in both terms -- so you could hear "slight right" > or "straight ahead", and the distance decrease as you approach your POI. This > can be set to use metric distances in the settings. > > I should probably mention that I've heard that some iPhone users in > Scandinavian countries find the POI database in AroundMe out of date, > compared to the one in Navigon. That's the only set of locations I know of > where users don't really like these POI helper apps. Both AroundMe and Where > To work internationally, and also support other language localizations. > > HTH. Cheers, > > Esther > > On Jan 30, 2012, Michael Busboom wrote: > > Wonderfully instructive and helpful, Geoff, thanks! > > I think I will have to get a 4S with 64GB if I start downloading maps onto > my phone. > > I will contact you either by phone or off-list with some more questions. > > Thanks again, > > Mike > > On 30,Jan,2012, Geoff Waaler wrote: > >> Greetings Mike, >> >> Motionx GPS Drive uses GoogleMaps, and has a setting where they can be >> cached on the IOS device. This would minimize data usage, and since you can >> always go to the cloud to retrieve current maps, they should in theory be >> always more current. IMHO, from a VoiceOver perspective MotionX is a bit >> quirkier than Navigon initially, in that many items are not labeled. 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