Can I just comment now that this problem hasn't gone away under Mountain Lion. Have filed a bug (two actually) on this issue.
Dónal On 24 Jul 2012, at 18:13, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote: > Hi Esther > > Yes, so I've now come to understand. Thanks for putting us right. > > Gordon > > On 23 Jul 2012, at 20:40, Esther <mori...@mac.com> wrote: > > This is a genuine accessibility issue with Java Preferences. VoiceOver > doesn't see tabs other than the one that is currently selected, so they don't > show up in item chooser menu, and you can't use it, or any of the other > normal ways to navigate to them and select them. I've posted a complete > solution for Paula on how to use Mouse Keys to navigate to any of the tabs > and select them, because you can move vertically down from the "Java > Preferences" heading in the title bar with Mouse Keys and VoiceOver will tell > you when you have moved over the "Network" tab if you've set the verbosity to > speak items under the mouse cursor by checking that box in the announcements > tab under VoiceOver Utility. Then you can start moving horizontally with > Mouse Keys either to the left or right to navigate to the other tabs. It's > just that it takes a lot of key presses to move this way -- I think about 32 > presses of the "k" key to move down to the edge of the tabs, and about 75 key > presses to mov > e across any tab horizontally. It was only about 10 presses of the "u" key > to move left to the "Security" tab if you moved down from the heading, but it > would take another 75 or so to move to the edge of the "General" tab in order > to click it, which you can do by pressing the "i" key. This will work every > time and go directly to the control you want, but typing out the explanation > of how to set up Mouse Keys and mapping out the number of key presses takes > longer than just moving your cursor with your finger on the Trackpad, guided > by the edge, if you only need to get to one of the tabs. > > Incidentally, the VoiceOver reporting behavior when I navigate onto the tab > group with Mouse Keys also tells me there's an accessibility issue with the > setup. I shouldn't hear the tab reported until I'm directly over it, but > somehow, as I move down towards the tab area, VoiceOver starts reporting the > currently selected tab group, and only identifies the individual tab names, > with "radio button" appended, once I am directly over those tabs. It's as > though the currently selected tab blots out the tab grouping selection, which > is indeed how it appears from the item chooser menu behavior -- only the > currently selected tab, whichever one it is, is visible to VoiceOver. > > If any list members are working as developers with the Mountain Lion gold > master, please check the behavior of Java Preferences! > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > mac-access@mac-access.net > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> Dónal Fitzpatrick dfitz...@computing.dcu.ie <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to mac-access@mac-access.net You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-access@mac-access.net/maillist.xml> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
