I am greatful for all this as well.

On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn & her faithful furry friends wrote:
I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it better.
all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making your 
products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled or not. 
I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been using a 
mac.  I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted person, unlike 
with the other screen readers which constantly use virtualisation. Well 
basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to Apple for making 
accessibility a right and not something you should fork out tons of money for. 
I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a phone.. that is usable right 
out of the box without the assistance of a sighted person. I am grateful for 
being able to buy this equipment at the same price a sighted person buys it so 
yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. Nothing is perfect and I am sure 
things can only improve so let's all be patient and as Lynne rightly said, 
report problems to Apple, this is the only way they will know what problems
 we are
having.
Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers and the 
other platform.

Take care all,

Lyn, Canelle & Epi

On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith <ly...@mac-access.net> 
wrote:

Hello Missy

I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not trying to involve 
anybody in a "My toy's better than yours" debate. What people do and how they 
choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is 
that this group is here for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to 
see Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to 
use the products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for Apple's 
products may be, you are very welcome here.

Lynne

On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, "Missy Hoppe" <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote:

• Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full advantage 
of all the tips and tricks that could make web
browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader developers. 
It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or
stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. It always 
frustrates me when I see any product being
bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I personally don't 
use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights
or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any sense or 
not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is
that I agree with you 100%. Thanks for the well-written post, and I hope that 
you're having a great day!

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