I have all of the English speaking acapella voices installed on my mac, and like them a lot, but some of their pronunciation quirks are just too frustrating for daily use with voiceover, and I have never had luck getting their pronunciation editor to work properly, so I just stick with Alex. I do use acapella Tracy as the system voice, though.
-----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Gordon Smith Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 11:17 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] personally speaking, I prefer the Acapella Group InfoVox voices to anything Apple offers. I personally use those voices all of the time and although they are a little costly, I consider them well worth the money. On 30 Sep 2012, at 13:39, Missy Hoppe <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote: I Agree. Alex is probably the best TTS voice out there right now. I have other voices installed on my macbook, but always go back to Alex. I wish Apple would develop a female equivelent and do away with the vocalizer stuff altogether, but until that happens, I'll always prefer Alex. It's a shame he can't be used on I-devices; with the processors they have now, I can't believe that isn't possible yet. -----Original Message----- From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of Shaun Oliver Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:36 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] from my own personal experience, I've found that the Alex voice, seems to have better inflection and is better able to read documents, whether online or otherwise. I have it relatively slow as I do alot of reading and want to take in each bit as I read it. you can even change the intonation which is rather nice, but, the vocaliser voices don't seem to have that functionality. As for Eloquents, I suspect Nuance would like it to simply go away. While on platforms that shall not be named I find it responsive and good for fast reading and the like, it's outdated technology and there's far better out there. Just my thoughts on the matter. On 30/09/2012, at 9:58 PM, "Debbie April Yuille" <debbieyui...@bigpond.com> wrote: > Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch > you can still understand it quite well. > > I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not > in development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be > corrected in the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. > > Debbie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net > [mailto:mac-access-boun...@mac-access.net] On Behalf Of william lomas > Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM > To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate > Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] > > just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable > really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky > when hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience > > On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am greatful for all this as well. >> >> On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn & her faithful furry friends wrote: >>>> I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it > better. >>>> all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making >>>> your > products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are > disabled or not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever > since I've been using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just > like any sighted person, unlike with the other screen readers which > constantly use virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all > my gratitude to Apple for making accessibility a right and not > something you should fork out tons of money for. I am grateful for being able > to buy a computer, a phone.. > that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a > sighted person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at > the same price a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the > hard work. > Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all > be patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this > is the only way they will know what problems >> we are >> having. >>>> Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen >>>> readers > and the other platform. >>>> >>>> Take care all, >>>> >>>> Lyn, Canelle & Epi >>>> >>>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith > <ly...@mac-access.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello Missy >>>>> >>>>> I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly >>>>> not > trying to involve anybody in a "My toy's better than yours" debate. > What people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their > choice. All I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here > for all of those people who share a desire and even a passion to see > Apple's products improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many > cases, learn to use the products. Whatever your skill level and > whatever your application for Apple's products may be, you are very welcome > here. >>>>> >>>>> Lynne >>>>> >>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, "Missy Hoppe" <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take >>>>> full > advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web >>>>> browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader > developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or >>>>> stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers >>>>> properly. It > always frustrates me when I see any product being >>>>> bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I > personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights >>>>> or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any > sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is >>>>> that I agree with you 100%. 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