Andy,
Can you give us a specific example of a page you're having issues with and
tell us how to navigate to the link you're having issues with? This way we
can try reproducing the problem?
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marri...@gmail.com>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: Incredibly annoying,not to mention extremely buggy problem with
Quicknav
Hmm. maybe the page changes and you don't hear it. I've had dynamic pages
like that where they change and you have to look for it. Try that as well.
Good luck.
On Aug 31, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Andy Collins <a...@recreation.plus.com> wrote:
Sarah - No matter how many times I click the link, it doesn't work, nor
does using the item chooser, I've even interacted, brought the mouse
pointer to the link with vo cmd f5, and done a single and double mouse
click using vo shift space, but nothing works on those links -
Andy
On 31 Aug 2013, at 21:01, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
I have that issue to, but I just keep clicking the link, but when you
let's say go from the item chooser and find the link you *have to* press
the thing twice as the first press moves it to the link, the second time
clicks the link, or what ever the item might be.
Tc.
On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Andy Collins <a...@recreation.plus.com>
wrote:
All I can say, is that I regularly encounter times when clicking a link
on a webpage produces nothing at all, like you say, it just sits there
on the link. VO says link pressed, but it doesn't activate it! -
Andy
On 31 Aug 2013, at 20:11, Chris Gilland <ch...@clgproductions.com>
wrote:
OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan
of Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan.
My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the
system and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down.
Before you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously
do know about VO+; to lock my keys. This isn't always a valuable
sollution however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric
keys as Voiceover commands. Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital
letter K. I hit shift+K, and Boom. I've just disabled/enabled my
keyboard commander. Real nice! Not? I also understand that being
I've got a macbook Pro, I could definitely use trackpad commander, but
my hands are big enough that I probably would bump the thing almost
constantly. Plus, I have very heavy fingers, and probably would exert
too much pressure on the thing, thus accidentally literally clicking
the thing, which of corse could give very undesirable results.
I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I
opened up Safari. What a disaster! First thing that I noticed was I
have Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch.
Well, by default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the
Sweetspot is set to the google search text box. That's perfectly OK.
That's normally in most cases exactly what I'd want. This way, I pop
open Safari, and boom, I'm in the text box, and just start typing my
query, then hit return. Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover
utility and under commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter
navigation so that I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys
while jumping table by table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block
text by block text, etc. Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within
Safari, I can use those single letter keys. The only problem which is
really pissing me off is that let's use Google just for example. Now,
this happens pretty much on any web site I use, but for simplisity
sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example. So, I have quicknav
enabled as well as single letter navigation. I fire up Safari, and I'm
popped immediately into the search box. So great! Let's say I want to
now do a search for say… ACB Radio. Again, I know it's just
ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose. So I
start interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think
that some of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single
letter commands. So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and
start interacting. I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return. Now, I go
to the top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow. Remember, I'm on a
macbook Pro, so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad.
Now, at the top of the page, not even focused anymore in the text box,
as I moved focus away by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top
of the screen, now, if I simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it
would move me to the next heading on the page, right? Wrong, actually.
What it's doing is to jump me back to the search box, I presume it's
finding the next search box on the page, which in this case happens to
be the search field, then, at the beginning of the box, it's
interacting me with that text box without my will, and it's literally
insertting that letter H into the box. If I then delete and backspace
it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then try hitting H
again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, which it is,
then I get the same result. It jumps me back up to that text box,
interacts, then types the letter H. This is incredibly buggy in my
book! Oh, and as if that's not enough, here's another weird thing.
With Quick nav on, and single letter nav on, if I type in my search
query, then don't even vo+right arrow to the google search button, but
instead just hit return, like I normally did with quick nav not
enabled, it doesn't do a bloody thing! It just kind a sits there, and
thinks about life. It doesn't go busy busy busy or anything of sort,
thank God. Don't give it any ideas, LOL! but it doesn't proceed to
the next page with my results. It's almost like it's not even clicking
the search button at all, whenever I hit the return key.
Very very very buggy in my view. I'm wonderring if anyone else on
here's had or is having, for that mind, this issue, or moreover, is
there maybe something that I'm missing? I'm definitely unaware of
anything, but who knows.
Here's to the incredibly! frustrated,
Chris.
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