Also, vo shift space will often click a link that vo space won't in my 
experience.

Danny.

On 01/09/2013, at 6:01 AM, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have that issue to, but I just keep clicking the link, but when you let's 
> say go from the item chooser  and find the link you *have to* press the thing 
> twice as the first press moves it to the link, the second time clicks the 
> link, or what ever the item might be.
> 
> Tc.
> On Aug 31, 2013, at 12:30 PM, Andy Collins <a...@recreation.plus.com> wrote:
> 
>> All I can say, is that I regularly encounter times when clicking a link on a 
>> webpage produces nothing at all, like you say, it just sits there on the 
>> link. VO says link pressed, but it doesn't activate it! -
>> 
>> Andy
>> On 31 Aug 2013, at 20:11, Chris Gilland <ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> OK, so normally, I don't know why, but I haven't really been a huge fan of 
>>> Quicknav, but now, I'm really! not a fan.
>>> 
>>> My ultimate goal was to turn on Quick nav globally throughout the system 
>>> and use it instead of having to constantly hold my VO keys down.  Before 
>>> you say anything, I'm a Voiceover trainer, so yes, I obviously do know 
>>> about VO+; to lock my keys.  This isn't always a valuable sollution 
>>> however, as this will then intercept regular alpha-numeric keys as 
>>> Voiceover commands.  Meaning, say I wanted to type a capital letter K.  I 
>>> hit shift+K, and Boom.  I've just disabled/enabled my keyboard commander.  
>>> Real nice!  Not?  I also understand that being I've got a macbook Pro, I 
>>> could definitely use trackpad commander, but my hands are big enough that I 
>>> probably would bump the thing almost constantly.  Plus, I have very heavy 
>>> fingers, and probably would exert too much pressure on the thing, thus 
>>> accidentally literally clicking the thing, which of corse could give very 
>>> undesirable results.
>>> 
>>> I actually was having a fairly decent experience with Quicknav until I 
>>> opened up Safari.  What a disaster!  First thing that I noticed was I have 
>>> Safari set automatically to take me into Google upon launch.  Well, by 
>>> default on the Google web site, unless you change it, the Sweetspot is set 
>>> to the google search text box.  That's perfectly OK.  That's normally in 
>>> most cases exactly what I'd want.  This way, I pop open Safari, and boom, 
>>> I'm in the text box, and just start typing my query, then hit return.  
>>> Well, I have also gone into the Voiceover utility and under 
>>> commanders/quicknav, I set it up to use single letter navigation so that 
>>> I'd not have to keep holding down my vo+command keys while jumping table by 
>>> table, heading by heading, anker by anker, block text by block text, etc.  
>>> Now, as long as quicknav is enabled within Safari, I can use those single 
>>> letter keys.  The only problem which is really pissing me off is that let's 
>>> use Google just for example.  Now, this happens pretty much on any web site 
>>> I use, but for simplisity sake, I'm gonna use Google for this example.  So, 
>>> I have quicknav enabled as well as single letter navigation.  I fire up 
>>> Safari, and I'm popped immediately into the search box.  So great!  Let's 
>>> say I want to now do a search for say… ACB Radio.  Again, I know it's just 
>>> ACBRadio.org, but again, this is simply for example purpose.  So I start 
>>> interacting with the text box, because if I don't, it will think that some 
>>> of those letters should be intercepted as navigation single letter 
>>> commands.  So I hit my down and right arrow keys together, and start 
>>> interacting.  I then type in ACBRadio, and hit return.  Now, I go to the 
>>> top of the web site with fn+VO+left arrow.  Remember, I'm on a macbook Pro, 
>>> so I don't have a physical hom/end key, nor a num pad.  Now, at the top of 
>>> the page, not even focused anymore in the text box, as I moved focus away 
>>> by doing the fn+vo+left arrow to jump to the top of the screen, now, if I 
>>> simply hit the letter H, you'd think, that it would move me to the next 
>>> heading on the page, right?  Wrong, actually.  What it's doing is to jump 
>>> me back to the search box, I presume it's finding the next search box on 
>>> the page, which in this case happens to be the search field, then, at the 
>>> beginning of the box, it's interacting me with that text box without my 
>>> will, and it's literally insertting that letter H into the box.  If I then 
>>> delete and backspace it out, then vo+right arrow away from the box, then 
>>> try hitting H again, first being sure that quick nav is indeed enabled, 
>>> which it is, then I get the same result.  It jumps me back up to that text 
>>> box, interacts, then types the letter H.  This is incredibly buggy in my 
>>> book!  Oh, and as if that's not enough, here's another weird thing.  With 
>>> Quick nav on, and single letter nav on, if I type in my search query, then 
>>> don't even vo+right arrow to the google search button, but instead just hit 
>>> return, like I normally did with quick nav not enabled, it doesn't do a 
>>> bloody thing!  It just kind a sits there, and thinks about life.  It 
>>> doesn't go busy busy busy or anything of sort, thank God.  Don't give it 
>>> any ideas, LOL!  but it doesn't proceed to the next page with my results.  
>>> It's almost like it's not even clicking the search button at all, whenever 
>>> I hit the return key.
>>> 
>>> Very very very buggy in my view.  I'm wonderring if anyone else on here's 
>>> had or is having, for that mind, this issue, or moreover, is there maybe 
>>> something that I'm missing?  I'm definitely unaware of anything, but who 
>>> knows.
>>> 
>>> Here's to the incredibly! frustrated,
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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