In related news, David Pogue writes about using the cell phone networks for internet access:
http://www.nytimes.com/auth/login?URI=http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/ 23/technology/circuits/23pogue.html&OP=51f81c26Q2FQ3BB.EQ3BR-NkF-- yDQ3BDQ23Q23!Q3BQ23Q3DQ3BDQ3FQ3By.NVe-9-Q2FwQ3BNCFNqCykQ3BDQ3FQ3A- Q2Fq.IVyQ7D9 The usual soul-sucking (but free -- hmm, I wonder if Romero thought about this for his zombies?) registration is required to read it. (if that link does not work, Jason O' Grady has the start of the article here: http://www.powerpage.org/cgi-bin/WebObjects/powerpage.woa/wa/story? newsID=14699 ) Jerry p.s. From my own personal experiences, NONE of the networks work in the out-of-the-way places I seem to end up in ... still at the mercy of those cartoon do-gooder bears that wander by and help stranded tourists and snake-bite victims :^). On Jun 24, 2005, at 4:19 PM, Marta Edie wrote: > You are so right, Jeffrey, the coverage for rural Ky , those wild blue > yonder places, is much better under cingular, especially since the ATT > and Cingular merger or whatever it is called when one eats the other > up. Their "pay as you go offer" was just nothing compared to that of > T-mobile, but if you have to travel to Ky's remote places, cingular is > good. And they do have a number of fine phones to choose from. I had > one of their plans until last month when my contract ran out. > Marta > To array a man's will against his sickness is the supreme art of > medicine. > -Henry Ward Beecher, preacher and writer (1813-1887) > > > On Jun 24, 2005, at 15:29, Jeffrey C Smith wrote: > >> John, >> >> I use Cingular because I think it gives me the best coverage in more >> remote parts of Ky. I also have a plan that gives the whole family >> phones and enough minutes to share. My latest goal though is to use >> my Motorola phone's bluetooth connection to get my laptop a wireless >> connection to the web anywhere I have a cellular signal. I understand >> that this is possible (although still unproven by me) with the >> standard voice connection and OS X with no extra data connection >> fees. Have you tried this? Jeff >> >> On Jun 24, 2005, at 10:44 AM, John Robinson wrote: >> >>> Brian, >>> >>> Thanks so much Brian, this helps. I have talked to so many who say >>> Cingular is not good, yet for some reason the Razor phone is only >>> usable through them, so I may go back to the Palm. >>> >>> Thanks, I needed the help, and Ward I will stop by and talk to Mark, >>> I want to come see your new duds anyway. >>> >>> >>> John R. >>> >>> On Jun 24, 2005, at 8:14 AM, Brian O'Neal wrote: >>> >>>> CDMA = Code Division Multiple Access >>>> GSM= Global system for mobile Communication >>>> GPS=Global positioning system >>>> >>>> >>>> The better technology is hard to say. I'm not an expert. GSM is >>>> much older than CDMA. I believe that GSM has better coverage, but >>>> CDMA has an advantage when it comes to data transfer. GSM phones >>>> come with a SIM card. This sim card can allow you to change phones >>>> by taking out the sim card and inserting it into another phone. >>>> But, with that comes the problem of subsidy locked phones. I had a >>>> GSM Palm OS phone (a Tungsten W) It was locked to the AT&T wireless >>>> service, meaning I could not take it to another GSM carrier like >>>> T-Mobile or Cingular before the merger. Most all carriers lock >>>> their phones. Some will unlock them after a certain amount of time >>>> has passed. I think that I would go with the CDMA phone. Mainly >>>> because I believe, but am not certain, that CDMA has faster data >>>> throughput than GSM, and since your phone can do Web, email and >>>> SMS, you may want to utilize those down the line. >>>> Just using it as a phone you shouldn't notice a difference, except >>>> maybe the way the audio sounds from different compression methods. >>>> Clarity should be there with both. >>>> >>>> Opinion, Verizon-good, Cingular-bad, Sprint-OK, AT&T-Thank goodness >>>> they no longer exist. >>>> >>>> Brian O'Neal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 24, 2005, at 1:14 AM, John Robinson wrote: >>>> >>>> Advise is needed. >>>> >>>> Today I checked with Verizon on a phone (Treo 650) and it's >>>> integration with a MAC. On the Palm website some of the features >>>> are only available for Windows, some for the MAC as well. >>>> >>>> I also checked with Cingular on the Motorola Razor phone, not as >>>> many features, but a very small phone. >>>> >>>> Here is my question for the group, as I had two stories. >>>> >>>> The Verison salesperson said that the CDMA network that they used >>>> is far superior to the GSM (I thought it was GPS, not sure) that >>>> Cingular uses. >>>> >>>> Once I got to the Cingular store they pointed out that the GPS was >>>> far superior to downloading of email, getting connected to the web, >>>> etc. then the older technology of CDMA. >>>> >>>> So once again I ask the advise of the experts. Which is the better >>>> technology? Will it matter if you are using it only for a phone? >>>> If you do what internet connection then would that make a >>>> difference as to which is better. >>>> >>>> Many thanks, I so appreciate the groups help. >>>> >>>> John Robinson >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will >>>> | be July 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. >>>> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> >>>> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will >>>> | be July 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. >>>> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> >>>> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will >>> | be July 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. >>> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> >>> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> >> >> >> >> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will >> | be July 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. >> | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> >> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> > > > > | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will > | be July 26. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. > | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> > | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> > > ----------------------------------- Someday, I will come up with a clever signature line. I am not sure if I will use it or not, but I will come up with one. | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be July 26. 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