On 2010-10-11 13:52 , Neil Laubenthal wrote:
Looking at the Tivo channel listing . . .I don't see the regular broadcast 
networks (NBC, CBS, Fox, and ABC) listed . . .

i don't know what "channel listing" you may be looking at -- i plug mine into an antenna, it figures out what channels i receive, and it finds the schedules for all those channels ... for those who are used to cable-only, btw, digital broadcast TV is a huge quality improvement over analog broadcast, and there's quite a bit of HD content

although I do see HBO and the other premium channels listed . . .do they come 
from the Tivo internet connection or still from the cable connection? Our 
current Cox bill gets us basic cable (Cox Starter) for 22, Expanded for 32, 
Advanced for 6, Sports for 3, and the HD set top box (non DVR) for 8. Assuming 
all the channels listed on the Tivo site are included in the monthly service . 
. .wouldn't I still need the basic cable for those channels?

except for what it streams (Netflix, etc.), TiVo just gets what you get via antenna and/or cable, so it depends on what you think you need; i don't think i need cable, except infrequently i'll stream something that was originally on cable, or check out a past season from the library

If I still have to pay for cable for all of those extra channels . . .other 
than the DVR capability which wouldn't be all that much use to us what's the 
real advantage of Tivo?

well if DVR is no use to you, that seems strange -- you only want to watch live? another advantage IMO is not needing cable to have plenty of content -- timeshifting (DVR) lets you watch things that are broadcast at odd times, which greatly multiplies the effective amount of available content; one more advantage is not having to configure squirky software on the mac, though i'd probably enjoy it, my partner would probably hate it

My original post was looking for some easy/relatively cheap way to use the mini 
(hooked up for streaming video from various sites that aren't covered by Tivo) 
to record something while watching something else . . .one big problem we seem 
to have is that two good shows come on opposite one another. While it would be 
nice to record one . . .it doesn't happen often enough to make it worth another 
$30 a month.

what costs $30/month? cable?

my TiVo records two shows at once all the time; they are broadcast shows, and as i said i don't know whether the dual tuners work on encrypted cable or not, but they might; i'm also pretty sure you can connect and record from both cable and broadcast signals
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