Hello Krister and all: I would have just written I agree in this message though that would chew up unnecessary bandwidth and not really explain anything and no I am not taking a shop at the moderators with that statement because I actually agree with the policy. I am not usually a get it off my chester though ...
I do believe that when critiques are made against mainstream products and the evaluative measure for the critique is how it measures up to a community specific product, that is like comparing apples to oranges. What it also does is defeat the purpose of mainstream developers wanting to make things accessible. Why go out and make things accessible when what seems to be wanted is a blind specific product that already exists for $70. I personally am tired of the argument that navigon is good for the $70. Navigon is a good app that actually is accessible. Now, I and others might have to access the information in a manner which is new or initially uncomfortable though that does not make the product inaccessible or poorly designed. What it does make the product is open to individual evaluation.In short, it is perfectly acceptable for a product to fit one persons needs, not fit a second persons needs, and still be both a good product which can always be improved. Opened myself up for trouble (grin). On Aug 12, 2009, at 5:12 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Ok, Il moderatore, i know this is off-topic somewhat but i as they say > in online business promoting mails, have to get it out of my chest > before i explode! I think it's a bit unfair to compare standard gps > solutions with those made strictly for blind folks and if Navigon as a > standard gps solution makes a very good job of helping us around the > place, it's great! What really would've been great would be if someone > could do a podcast of a navigon session so that one may here it in > action, rather like people have done with Wayfinder access and Mobile > geo. > /Krister > > 11 aug 2009 kl. 14.10 skrev Chris G: > >> >> Hi, >> FYI Humanware Trekker is not using the Sendero SDK. >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:01:26 +0100 >> william lomas <lomaswill...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> what will the update in december contain for navigon? >>> >>> On 10 Aug 2009, at 18:50, Chris Hofstader wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> EI don't do podcasts. I will write some blog entries on this stuff >>>> soon (www.blindconfidential.blogspot.com). >>>> >>>> Of those available to blinks, Wayfinder is the one I know the least >>>> about as I only used it for a month or so about a year ago. Almost >>>> all of the players in the AT biz are using the same Sendero engine. >>>> So, Humanware, Nuance, Freedom Scientific, Code Factory are all >>>> about >>>> the same underneath but have different UI that one can pick from. >>>> >>>> Just based on my minimal experience with Navigon, though, I would >>>> suggest you stick with Wayfinder/Access until they put out an >>>> update >>>> expected in December. Navigon is fine if you don't already have >>>> something but I wouldn't scrap your current solution quite yet. >>>> >>>> These opinions are mine and mine alone and are the result of >>>> messing >>>> around with Navigon for less than two days and I've been using >>>> Mobile >>>> Geo very frequently since it came out and it is my favorite but >>>> that >>>> is likely because it is the one with which I'm most familiar. >>>> >>>> cdh >>>> On Aug 10, 2009, at 9:40 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> can you do a podcast on navigon so ican hear it? at present i >>>>> am a >>>>> wayfinder user and want to "hear" how it compares >>>>> >>>>> On 10 Aug 2009, at 14:09, Chris Hofstader wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> While I have had and enjoyed my iPhone for about a month and a >>>>>> half, I >>>>>> hadn't, before yesterday, needed to switch between running tasks. >>>>>> Specifically, I was following directions to our local YWCA using >>>>>> Navigon yesterday. I received a phone call and, after hanging >>>>>> up, I >>>>>> couldn't figure out how to get back to Navigon to look at some >>>>>> things. Navigon continued giving me directions but I could not >>>>>> get >>>>>> back to its interface where VoiceOver reads the street names and >>>>>> such. >>>>>> >>>>>> I looked in the iPhone manual and searched on "task switching" >>>>>> and >>>>>> "background task" using VO's search facility as well as the one >>>>>> in >>>>>> Preview and didn't find anything. I can't believe that this >>>>>> would >>>>>> be >>>>>> too difficult but I can't find it in the manual given the search >>>>>> criteria I can think up. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any help will be appreciated. I'm going back into the manual to >>>>>> see >>>>>> what I might be able to find. >>>>>> >>>>>> Happy Hacking, >>>>>> cdh >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Chris G <cgrabowsk...@gmail.com> >> >> >>> > > > > Take good care and I wish you enough. 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