Nippon Touch Me 5 braille display. Has no keyboard for input.

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On 4/27/2014 7:59 AM, Thuy Mallalieu wrote:
any idea what this mystery braille display is? Like you say, we might have 
better luck if we knew which one it was?
Cheers
Thuy


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On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote:

   This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I 
think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this particular 
display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side trips that lead to 
nowhere.

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On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless you 
have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to assign 
commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on this list 
will have to help you to do that if you want to do that.
Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. That 
is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers.
Gigi

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On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:

Hi again
You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille on your 
display. That was why I was asking you if you could write Braille on your 
display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do is to read braille on 
your braille display. It sounds like that your display is supported by voice 
over because otherwise you would've had to do more to make it work or maybe it 
wouldn't have worked it all. So it sounds like that you will need to use your 
computer keyboard to do everything like putting things in and use your Braille 
display toread braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit 
is the first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with 
your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit so 
that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will start on the 
next page.
Gigi

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On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to navigate 
things, do i have to go to the voice over utility > braille then i have to 
assign some commands?
On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:

Hi there
Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does not mean 
that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because my focus 14 blue 
is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in the focus 14 blue manual. 
The focus, at least in my manual, never says a word about voiceover except for 
the iPhone. However, my display is listed under its manufacturer in the 
voiceover manual for the Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you 
might look in the Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if 
it's on the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the 
displays under that manufacturer that are supported.

In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does not exist 
almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they immediately tell you to 
call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of course, which is under Windows. 
Since there are about 40 braille displays listed under supported braille 
displays on Apple's website, I would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. 
I was most impressed to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I 
never heard of before.

Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get braille? If 
you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and it's on the list 
somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes those displays that are 
on the list of supported braille displays. I don't think you would see braille 
on your display if you are able to get braille on it without going through more 
complicated connections. I hope what I just said makes sense.


Regards,
Gigi


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On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the manual for my 
display braille but in the manual there's no instruction how to use it on the 
mac,. my mom read it for me, and there's all instruction to use this display 
braille for all screen reader except for voice over,
Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> ha 
scritto:

Hi there
I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille displays have 
buttons on them so that you can move the Braille back-and-forth. Does your 
Braille display let you type Braille on it? That is what I meant by input keys. 
If your Braille display will let you type input Braille, then you can use some 
commands that are listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual 
for your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands for 
using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS devices like 
iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands.
Sincerely,
Gigi

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On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my display 
braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the manual there's no 
instruction how to use it on voice over
Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> ha 
scritto:

Hi there
Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can press the space 
bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You also might be able to set up a 
key command in the VoiceOver utility. There are some Braille commands that 
apply to Braille displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There 
are some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some special 
keys that do different things.
Regards,
Gigi

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On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera <dionip...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i open it on my 
display braille? or can i quit an application using my display braille? this is 
my first display braille, the name was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft

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