maybe its only for reading, maybe it was not supported with navigating, but thanks any way On 27 Apr 2014, at 05:57 pm, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
> I don't see that one in the supported Braille display list. I see lots of > Nippon telsoft, but not that one. > http://www.apple.com/accessibility/osx/braille-display.html > > Teresa > > On the other hand, there are different fingers. > > On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Nippon Touch Me 5 braille display. Has no keyboard for input. >> >> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >> "Expecting the world to treat you fairly because you are good is like >> expecting the bull not to charge because you are a vegetarian." >> --Dennis Wholey (1937-) >> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >> E-mail- >> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >> >> On 4/27/2014 7:59 AM, Thuy Mallalieu wrote: >>> any idea what this mystery braille display is? Like you say, we might have >>> better luck if we knew which one it was? >>> Cheers >>> Thuy >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 27 Apr 2014, at 15:13, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> This display appears not to have a keyuboard, its strictly a display. I >>>> think we need to leave this to someone who knows how to work this >>>> particular display to help the person. Itherwise we will all go on side >>>> trips that lead to nowhere. >>>> >>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . . >>>> If you surrender to the wind, you can ride it. >>>> --Toni Morrison >>>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn >>>> E-mail- >>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> On 4/27/2014 6:58 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>> I forgot something. Although you can't assign Braille key commands unless >>>>> you have the ability to write Braille on your display, you may be able to >>>>> assign commands to your trackpad. I haven't done this, so someone else on >>>>> this list will have to help you to do that if you want to do that. >>>>> Either that, or you may want to call that wonderful 877-204-3930 number. >>>>> That is the Apple Accessibility number for blind and deaf customers. >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 27, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi again >>>>>> You can't assign commands unless you have the ability to write Braille >>>>>> on your display. That was why I was asking you if you could write >>>>>> Braille on your display. Otherwise, all you would have the ability to do >>>>>> is to read braille on your braille display. It sounds like that your >>>>>> display is supported by voice over because otherwise you would've had to >>>>>> do more to make it work or maybe it wouldn't have worked it all. So it >>>>>> sounds like that you will need to use your computer keyboard to do >>>>>> everything like putting things in and use your Braille display toread >>>>>> braille on your programs such as text edit. In fact, text edit is the >>>>>> first program that I would recommend you start with to practice with >>>>>> your braille display. You may need to press command shift w in text edit >>>>>> so that when you get to the bottom of the first page your text will >>>>>> start on the next page. >>>>>> Gigi >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 27, 2014, at 7:49 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>>>>> <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> my computer recognize my display braille, but the only problem was to >>>>>>> navigate things, do i have to go to the voice over utility > braille >>>>>>> then i have to assign some commands? >>>>>>>> On 27 Apr 2014, at 12:26 pm, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>>> Just because it doesn't tell you about voice over in the manual does >>>>>>>> not mean that it is not supported in voiceover. How do I know? Because >>>>>>>> my focus 14 blue is not listed in a discussion of using on the Mac in >>>>>>>> the focus 14 blue manual. The focus, at least in my manual, never says >>>>>>>> a word about voiceover except for the iPhone. However, my display is >>>>>>>> listed under its manufacturer in the voiceover manual for the >>>>>>>> Macintosh for supported Braille displays. So, you might look in the >>>>>>>> Getting Started with VoiceOver in Apple's website and see if it's on >>>>>>>> the list. You first look under the manufacturer, and then it has the >>>>>>>> displays under that manufacturer that are supported. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In the case of Freedom Scientific, for example, they act the Mac does >>>>>>>> not exist almost because if tell them you are using a Mac they >>>>>>>> immediately tell you to call Apple. That's because they sell JAWS, of >>>>>>>> course, which is under Windows. Since there are about 40 braille >>>>>>>> displays listed under supported braille displays on Apple's website, I >>>>>>>> would be surprised if yours wasn't listed there. I was most impressed >>>>>>>> to see the braille displays listed there, some of which I never heard >>>>>>>> of before. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, when you connected your display to your computer, did you get >>>>>>>> braille? If you did, then VoiceOver is recognizing your display and >>>>>>>> it's on the list somewhere, I'll bet because VoiceOver only recognizes >>>>>>>> those displays that are on the list of supported braille displays. I >>>>>>>> don't think you would see braille on your display if you are able to >>>>>>>> get braille on it without going through more complicated connections. >>>>>>>> I hope what I just said makes sense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>>>>>>> <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> nope, i dont think i can't type on my display braille, i have the >>>>>>>>> manual for my display braille but in the manual there's no >>>>>>>>> instruction how to use it on the mac,. my mom read it for me, and >>>>>>>>> there's all instruction to use this display braille for all screen >>>>>>>>> reader except for voice over, >>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 27/apr/2014, alle ore 12:49 AM, Eugenia Firth >>>>>>>>>> <gigifi...@me.com> ha scritto: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if I made my question clear. You know, all Braille >>>>>>>>>> displays have buttons on them so that you can move the Braille >>>>>>>>>> back-and-forth. Does your Braille display let you type Braille on >>>>>>>>>> it? That is what I meant by input keys. If your Braille display will >>>>>>>>>> let you type input Braille, then you can use some commands that are >>>>>>>>>> listed in the VoiceOver manual. Also, do you have the manual for >>>>>>>>>> your braille display? If you do, a lot of them have listed commands >>>>>>>>>> for using them with screen readers. Mine has a section for iOS >>>>>>>>>> devices like iPhones, Macintosh commands, and Windows commands. >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, >>>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:20 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>>>>>>>>> <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> actually i dont know, but theres a lot of buttons on the top of my >>>>>>>>>>> display braille,, maybe i should try evertything because in the >>>>>>>>>>> manual there's no instruction how to use it on voice over >>>>>>>>>>>> Il giorno 25/apr/2014, alle ore 02:46 PM, Eugenia Firth >>>>>>>>>>>> <gigifi...@me.com> ha scritto: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>>>>>>> Does your Braille display haven't put keys? If it does, you can >>>>>>>>>>>> press the space bar with the S letter and get to the menu. You >>>>>>>>>>>> also might be able to set up a key command in the VoiceOver >>>>>>>>>>>> utility. There are some Braille commands that apply to Braille >>>>>>>>>>>> displays in particular, no matter which one they are. There are >>>>>>>>>>>> some that are unique to a particular display, like mine has some >>>>>>>>>>>> special keys that do different things. >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera >>>>>>>>>>>>> <dionip...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> can somebody help me with my display braille, on my mail, can i >>>>>>>>>>>>> open it on my display braille? or can i quit an application using >>>>>>>>>>>>> my display braille? this is my first display braille, the name >>>>>>>>>>>>> was touch me 5 by nippon telesoft >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
