Hi Krister,

If you hold the phone 8-10 inches (20-25 CM) above the document, making sure the camera is centered above it, then you should get fairly accurate results. This is where the field of view report, and the tilt guidance come in extremely handy! You don't need to turn your arm at awkward angles, if anything, you may need to raise, or lower the phone, move it backwards, or forwards, but nothing unnatural. Also, Make sure the phone has the same orientation as the document (portrait or landscape), and let the built-in guidance features help you orient the last bit if needed.
HTH,
Rachel.
On 9/21/2014 2:07 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
I’ve never found out what to turn and how, i lose edges when i turn and get muscle ache from holding my hand in strange angles.:-) No, the clock orientation thingy isn’t something i understand, but then i am a bear with a very, very, vary little brain.
/Krister

21 sep 2014 kl. 00:07 skrev Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>>:

I’ve had the phone turned up to 18 degrees off center and it’s worked just fine so I think it really depends on the clarity of text.
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On Sep 20, 2014, at 5:09 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:

Hi!
So you have to have the phone or paper in the right clock direction.
It can't turn the page virtually in the app.
/A
20 sep 2014 kl. 23:03 skrev Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com <mailto:dragonwalke...@gmail.com>>:

GiGi, that’s the beauty of the tilt function. I’m usually fairly good at balancing the phone but if I do more than one scan of something in the same spot, such as just moving another piece of mail under it, I tend to tip the phone.

The thing that confuses me at times is the clock face orientation. I have to tell myself that it is reporting the position of the material under the phone and that I should turn the phone in that direction until it says 0. For some weird reason my brain conjured that this was the orientation of the phone itself when looking at the image and that I must turn the phone in the opposite direction to reorient. Where that came from I have no idea. 😣
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On Sep 20, 2014, at 4:59 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com <mailto:gigifi...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi there
Well lazy me did something else. I put my Mac on my lap and shut it, and then sorted my Mail sitting in my recliner. I wasn't sure that was going to work but it did work quite fine. I am finding the level indicator to be a lot more helpful than the review function. Maybe it's just me since I just got it today, but by the time I tell it to scan again I have to be very careful not to change my position.
Gigi

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On Sep 20, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Rob Bender <rbende...@gmail.com <mailto:rbende...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I also bought the app after hearing the Applevis podcast and reading about the results from others on the list. I had the opportunity to borrow a Nokia phone with the old KNFB app 4 or 5 years ago and was only ever able to get a few words from a page. I was able to sit at the kitchen table and sort the mail just after buying the new app. It is definitely better than the old app since the field of view report and the tilt notification are a great help in lining up the camera. I will add that I had not been able to get good results with the other OCR apps for the iPhone since I was horrible at lining up the camera. It really seems that they did a great job on writing an app which compensates for blind users.
 I plan to try more documents today.

On Sep 20, 2014, at 6:00 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com <mailto:gigifi...@me.com>> wrote:

Hi Pete
You may have answered this already, but I once tried the KNFB reader that a friend had on his Windows phone. I couldn't get the thing to line up and I got the worst text you ever saw. Obviously, you got it to line up with the restaurant menu, and I'm really impressed about that. I have heard there is an option on this new program to find the line up. How sloppy can you be to line up the text and have the text come out good? I hope my question makes sense. I know a lot of people got the old one to work, but I was hopeless with it. So, did you ever use the old one, and is it, in your opinion, better than it was?
Regards,
Gigi


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On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:58 AM, peter Apgar <pap...@gmavt.net <mailto:pap...@gmavt.net>> wrote:

Best app I've ever purchased! I to believe that this works better then desktop scanning programs. First day with it was today. First try at a restaurant scored the entire menu perfectly

Pete

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On Sep 19, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Frankly, I could not agree more!!! My flat bed scanning days are through: or just about anyhow. I never got such good results with the other OCR apps. Not even with Abby Fine Reader Text Grabber, which is kinda sorta okay. The KNFB reader is where it's at if you want it to be both fast and accurate. Yes, it does help you angle the camra just right. I didn't realize, until I started using the KNFB reader app that I was always angling the camra lens much too far upward.


Sincerely,
the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus!

On Sep 19, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com <mailto:lisettewessel...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Donna,
I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to. It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my phone. It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.

Good luck with your decision

Lisette

On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com <mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote:

Kevin, can you say more? I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or Prizmo. I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the positioning of the camera. Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
Thanks,
Donna

On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly <kdmattin...@gmail.com <mailto:kdmattin...@gmail.com>> wrote:

It just works. I'm glad I bought it.

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On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary <gary.robl...@gmail.com <mailto:gary.robl...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yep, I know.

Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?

Gary
On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife <came...@cameronstrife.com <mailto:came...@cameronstrife.com>> wrote:

$100? Ouch.




On 9/19/14, Chris G <jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com <mailto:jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com>> wrote:
Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
Chris

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I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.

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On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Apparently the app is $100.

CB

Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind, has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.

Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said: "The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance, we have been interested in the development of better and more portable reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus, labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life, even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
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