I have an artist on my machine called the Eagles. Spot light would not pull it up. It gave me everything but, including any email I had relating to any threat I had having to do with computers. I should be able to type in precisely what I'm looking for getting the results I know are there. I could do that in Mavericks. This OS is garbage.
Pam Francis On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: What sort of keywords? I'll put a couple songs on this machine and try the same search you did, to see if I can get the same (inaccessible) results. > On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > No I have not done that. I didn't know it existed. However, I shouldn't have > to. I would think the OS would be smart enough to understand keywords, > knowing what it was supposed to be searching for to start with. > > Pam Francis > > On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > > I don't have music stored locally, but if I search for other files, they come > up. Have you explored the Spotlight preferences (under System Preferences)? > You can uncheck items you don't want searched, and sort the order of result > types. >> On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Alex, >> I was originally attempting to search for music title on my Mac. As I did >> that, everything including email having nothing to do with what I was >> searching for, web search results that were unlabeled, also having nothing >> to do with what I was attempting to find. I gave up. >> I realize in some ways that letter was not very nice, however, someone needs >> to be made aware that even though we are in my Nordie, we still have issues. >> If that both concentration is now on what makes it look pretty rather than >> functionality, they may as well did ditch accessibility. If they are not >> going to do it right, leaving us with a half-baked product, figuring we have >> to settle for whatever they give us, that's crap. I have totally lost all >> faith in them with this release. As I said in another post, they have traded >> quality for quantity and apologies. I know nothing is perfect. However I >> also know for the prices they charge, it would not hurt them to take the >> time to do it right. All the read these dates, and updates, it won't matter, >> unless you have a product worth releasing and updating. >> >> >> Pam Francis >> >> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:06 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I agree that it would be great if Apple put out a document or iBook >> explaining the accessibility and interface changes with each release. In >> fact, this is something that I have urged them to do in the past, for iOS >> and OS X. >> >> I don't use iTunes much, so I can't comment on that, but I will say that I >> have not used the sidebar in that app since it became optional last year, >> and I have no problems. Spotlight is better, for me at least, than it was in >> 10.9. Can you provide an example of what you search for that gives you the >> unlabeled items? I know it might not work on my machine since our two Macs >> will have very different files on them, but if it is a web search result, I >> might be able to duplicate the problem. So far, I haven't seen anything not >> labeled, except the Maps thumbnail when a nearby business is a result. >> >> As to Windows, consider this: when Windows 8 came out as an upgrade to >> Windows 7, the interface was far, far more radically altered than is that of >> Yosemite compared to Mavericks. Windows 10 will be out next year, with yet >> more profound alterations over Windows 8. Microsoft will not release a >> changes document with an eye toward accessibility either, and since Apple >> doesn't force Mac users to upgrade, I'm not sure I see the difference here. >> Yes, Microsoft has much more public betas, so people know what to expect >> before release day, but the same information comes out within a couple days >> of a new OS X release. Plus, to my knowledge, there is no site equivalent to >> AppleVis for Windows, so finding out what changed in accessibility is more >> difficult. >> >> I'm not saying Apple is perfect, and I'm not saying they don't have worse >> quality assurance than they have in the past (look at iOS8, or the simple >> bugs not caught in Yosemite). I'm not saying Windows is a worse operating >> system objectively, though it is to me personally. What I am saying is that >> iTunes still does what I need, even if it looks different, and I have no >> problems with Spotlight. It works even better than it did in Mavericks >> (specifically, navigation is more reliable and it pulls in far more >> information), and I have found no show-stopping bugs in this release. >>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 2:28 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Apple has so much broken this OS. I have no idea why they would think of >>> releasing it without having paid more attention to what they were doing. >>> I wrote this to the accessibility email address, even though it may not be >>> totally their fault, I can't believe they don't have some input into what >>> goes into their new OS. >>> >>> Hello, >>> I am extremely disappointed with the lack of attention paid to >>> accessibility in your latest OS10 release. >>> You overhauled the look of your software, while not thinking of those of us >>> who have grown to trust you with our accessibility needs. >>> I know many visually impaired beta testers, most under NDA with you per >>> each release of both desktop & IOS software. >>> I realize we are a minority in the big picture of your customer base. >>> However, if one has paid money to participate in your testers program & is >>> paid lipservice to what is reported, what good are the testers? Has the >>> quality control suffered because the upgrades are now free? >>> Aren't we as a disability community owed a description of what we can >>> expect in terms we understand? It looks pretty, but acts very much like >>> something from a crackerjack box. >>> I can't get to my music in Itunes because the views I have become used to >>> have disappeared. There is no more sidebar. >>> In spotlight search, which is supposed to search for references outside my >>> Mac, I hear either the words button or image in the search results. >>> How is this useful to me or anyone who would try to use it with no vision? >>> As I stated earlier, there are those who have been under NDA to attempt to >>> alert you of the issues before release. Those same people had enough >>> respect for their contracts to not divulge issues that may concern the rest >>> of us. However, in return we all got slapped in the face. >>> There is a site that gathers bugs, along with other content. >>> In case you are interested go to www.applevis.com >>> As has been shown, I doubt any of this will be taken to heart. >>> I can only hope. >>> My next computer, if I need one will be a Windows machine. They are >>> cheaper, maybe a little buggy, yet I know what I am getting. >>> Premium prices should reflect premium quality in every sense of the word. >>> Pamela Francis >>> >>> Pam Francis >>> >>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:47 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> It's now called Dictation Commands, and is coupled with Dictation. Enable >>> it in accessibility preferences, and use it by pressing the same command >>> you'd use to start dictation (press that key once more to stop). The >>> problem is that VoiceOver is muted during all dictation, which now includes >>> issuing commands, so even if a command works, you get no spoken feedback. >>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Faisal <newyorkyank...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> did they completely do away with voice commands on Yosemite? My key >>>> trigger no longer works and I couldn’t find it in system preferences. >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> mehg...@icloud.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> mehg...@icloud.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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