I've heard one report of the unread status being unreliable, but that's it. I don't have that problem, and I've not heard anyone else talk about it aside from that single report. Maybe you'll run into it, but for what it's worth, I haven't. > On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote: > > I for one, applaud what you and the others are doing with respect to your > work on Mail and the other parts of Yosemite. Just one thing bothers me. I > am informed that with this version of Mail, messages are indicated to be > unread even if they have in fact been read. Is this so? In fact, it's the > one small factor holding me back from doing the update. I trust the > signatures part crashing has also been fixed? > > > Sincerely, > the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! > Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! > > On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:21 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu > <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: > >> Hello Pamela, >> >> You wrote: >> "Is it different than the junk they released with this most recent OS?" >> >> It truly saddens me that you feel that the current build of Mail is junky. >> >> While I think I can understand your frustration, I want you to know that I >> and others worked very hard to make sure that the core functionality of the >> application was not lost in this, the first commercial release of the >> application. >> >> In the previous version of Mail, using the VoiceOver + arrow key combos made >> sense in terms of the order in which items were placed into focus. Now, as >> you have no doubt discovered, navigating from the Mailboxes Table to the >> Messages table, for example, is no longer linear. In fact, the order in >> which they appear makes no sense, at all, from a VoiceOver user's >> perspective, in my opinion of course. >> >> Please know that these kinds of things have been bugged and Apple is quite >> aware of them. I do not know why they were not addressed in this release >> but rest assured that I and others will continue to press for improvements. >> >> >> I, personally, don't use the Classic view but, with just one or two little >> changes in keystroke combos, the Standard view works just as well as it did >> in Maverick. >> >> I do not write this because I am trying to save face for Apple, I am writing >> this because I believe in the power of this application. >> >> I will be happy to help you get your Mail groove back, using Yosemite Mail >> by discussing the application in more detail, off-list, should you wish. >> >> Mark >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis >> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 >> >> Hi guys, >> Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people >> referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it >> different than the junk they released with this most recent OS? >> >> Pam Francis >> >> On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Nicholas Parsons >> <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com <mailto:mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Mail 8.0 is working well for me, though in Classic view all messages seem to >> be marked as conversations whether they are or not, and in standard view >> they are all marked as unread whether they are or not. However, I like the >> fact that the unread status is back to the beginning of the info announced >> in standard view. 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