Hello Ray, The unread tag is working perfectly in Mail on both of my Macs, via Standard view.
Mark From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 2:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 I for one, applaud what you and the others are doing with respect to your work on Mail and the other parts of Yosemite. Just one thing bothers me. I am informed that with this version of Mail, messages are indicated to be unread even if they have in fact been read. Is this so? In fact, it's the one small factor holding me back from doing the update. I trust the signatures part crashing has also been fixed? Sincerely, the Constantly Barefooted Ray, Still a very happy Mac and iphone user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in and fully protected by ClamXav Antivirus! On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:21 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: Hello Pamela, You wrote: "Is it different than the junk they released with this most recent OS?" It truly saddens me that you feel that the current build of Mail is junky. While I think I can understand your frustration, I want you to know that I and others worked very hard to make sure that the core functionality of the application was not lost in this, the first commercial release of the application. In the previous version of Mail, using the VoiceOver + arrow key combos made sense in terms of the order in which items were placed into focus. Now, as you have no doubt discovered, navigating from the Mailboxes Table to the Messages table, for example, is no longer linear. In fact, the order in which they appear makes no sense, at all, from a VoiceOver user's perspective, in my opinion of course. Please know that these kinds of things have been bugged and Apple is quite aware of them. I do not know why they were not addressed in this release but rest assured that I and others will continue to press for improvements. I, personally, don't use the Classic view but, with just one or two little changes in keystroke combos, the Standard view works just as well as it did in Maverick. I do not write this because I am trying to save face for Apple, I am writing this because I believe in the power of this application. I will be happy to help you get your Mail groove back, using Yosemite Mail by discussing the application in more detail, off-list, should you wish. Mark -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 Hi guys, Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it different than the junk they released with this most recent OS? Pam Francis On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Nicholas Parsons <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote: Mail 8.0 is working well for me, though in Classic view all messages seem to be marked as conversations whether they are or not, and in standard view they are all marked as unread whether they are or not. However, I like the fact that the unread status is back to the beginning of the info announced in standard view. Apart from this, it seems snappier than ever, but responsiveness depends on many factors and your milage may vary. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. 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