I wonder if this will change with Swift being open source. From what I
hear developers really like it, other than all the usual "just outta
beta" kind of quirks. Seems like there has been this Apple Way of
developing even back in the Orca Pascal days. Most of the dev work
wasn't writing code in the native language, it was figuring out all the
Apple APIs and getting the hooked together.
CB
On 6/22/15 9:42 PM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu wrote:
My primary objection to the Apple accessibility approach is its complete Cocoa,
language and runtime oligarchy. You have to use the Objective-C runtime to
interact with the accessibility “Protocol” and Apple doesn’t seem very
interested in allowing or supporting any kind of access to that runtime except
from Objective-C. So, for all practical purposes, unless you are using Cocoa
and Objective-C, or are subclassing any of Apple’s views (which was the
approach taken by TK and QT until they started experiencing graphical
corruption and they stopped, breaking accessibility), you simply don’t get
accessibility. We sometimes get lucky and a developer goes out of their way to
ensure that their custom views are accessible, which requires work, but again,
only in Objective-C, which pretty much guarantees that we won’t get it in
otherwise non-Apple projects, such as the cross-platform toolkits. Which is a
great shame. I have a note to take this up with Apple at some point; I think
they need a C-based API because that is the lingua-franca of interface
languages and all these cross-platform toolkits are written in it. Note that
this problem does not affect Windows because e.g. COM can be accessed through
the ABI in C. I dunno what the situation is on Linux nowadays, but last I
looked it was all still GNOME and QT hadn’t yet made their bridge. Is that
still true?
Oh yeah, and just say “no" to screen scraping! :)
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