Who cares about a NDA? Especially if the internet's already talking about it.
On 8/6/2015 8:20 PM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: > Look, If you agree to a NDA in any form before getting a beta, > whether or not you understand it or agree with it, you are legally > bound by the NDA. So we can discuss what should happen until we're > blue in the face, but what should and what is are two totally > different things. So if the NDA says no discussion, guess what > that means? No discussion! > > On 8/6/2015 3:09 PM, Sunshine wrote: >> I agree with the person that stated a public beta is a public >> beta, so that a person should be able to discuss the public beta >> of osx and the like why make it a public beta if they want nda as >> well, public beta means that public beta you should be able to >> discuss it with out havint to worry about things so public beta >> means no nda. > >> On 8/6/2015 1:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>> Diddo. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Joe Quinn >>> <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com> *To:* >>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups. com >>> >>> >>> > >>> >>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. >>> >>> as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact >>> question, so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my >>> original reply below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say >>> different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e >>> Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact >>> them about it. :( it may not make sense, but that's the way it >>> is. NDA, and all that. in spite of it being public, ya still >>> can't talk about it publically. now if something's released >>> about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I think >>> that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for >>> instance cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be >>> in iOS 9. maybe they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but >>> they did. >>> >>> >>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler >>> <<mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you >>>> make something available to everybody and then swear >>>> everybody to secrecy. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn >>>> <<mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>jdawg1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you >>>>> no longer "need" to have a developer account. Thus making >>>>> it a "public" beta. NDA still applies. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler >>>>> <<mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then >>>>>> why can’t questions be asked? If it’s as it was before >>>>>> and it wasn’t public, then I could understand. But if >>>>>> Apple is now going public with their betas, then I would >>>>>> think this is open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing >>>>>> the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the >>>>>> question. Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Les >>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>>> <<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have to say in this particular case, I agree with >>>>>>> Sadam. It's not like he's asking for specifics. He >>>>>>> just wanted a general yes, or no. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, >>>>>>> admittedly, this is kind of a grey area, as what one >>>>>>> may think is unstable, someone else may not really be >>>>>>> as concerned about. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to >>>>>>> install, for what it's worth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're >>>>>>> to the point of being debilitating. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Sadam Ahmed >>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com> *To:* >>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegr oups.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM >>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, where in my message am I going into specifics? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there >>>>>>>> are a couple of issues. That would suffice. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With Best regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Diploma of International Business candidate >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> RMIT University >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blog: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Http://www.SadamAhmed.com >>>>>>>> <http://www.sadamahmed.com/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent using OS X Mail >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 9:30 pm, Ray Foret Jr >>>>>>>>> <<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> With respect, I disagree. You did ask for >>>>>>>>> something to specific to discuss with you either >>>>>>>>> privately or otherwise. To ask how stable a beta >>>>>>>>> OS is something that touches on a degree of >>>>>>>>> specifity which is not something I for one am >>>>>>>>> willing to go in to. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and >>>>>>>>> Apple TV user! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full >>>>>>>>> accessibility for the blind built-in >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:39 AM, >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com>sadam.li...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ray, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm not asking for specifics. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Only gauging the suitability of putting this on >>>>>>>>>> my Mac. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The question was quite broad. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Don't think it breaks NDA. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 7:23 pm, Ray Foret Jr >>>>>>>>>> <<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Let me gentally remind you that we cannot >>>>>>>>>>> discuss beta findings here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ >>>>>>>>>>> and Apple TV user! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full >>>>>>>>>>> accessibility for the blind built-in >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:40 AM, >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com>sadam.li...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to install the current beta and >>>>>>>>>>>> am wondering how stable the current release >>>>>>>>>>>> is? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you would like to make contact off the >>>>>>>>>>>> list regarding this feel free to reach out. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are >>>>>>>>>>>> subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. 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