-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Look, If you agree to a NDA in any form before getting a beta, whether or not you understand it or agree with it, you are legally bound by the NDA. So we can discuss what should happen until we're blue in the face, but what should and what is are two totally different things. So if the NDA says no discussion, guess what that means? No discussion!
On 8/6/2015 3:09 PM, Sunshine wrote: > I agree with the person that stated a public beta is a public > beta, so that a person should be able to discuss the public beta of > osx and the like why make it a public beta if they want nda as > well, public beta means that public beta you should be able to > discuss it with out havint to worry about things so public beta > means no nda. > > On 8/6/2015 1:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >> Diddo. >> >> Chris. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Joe Quinn >> <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com> *To:* >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM >> *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. >> >> as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, >> so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my original reply >> below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say different is >> that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e Apple or their >> policies in reguards to beta software, contact them about it. :( >> it may not make sense, but that's the way it is. NDA, and all >> that. in spite of it being public, ya still can't talk about it >> publically. now if something's released about IOS 9 from apple, >> then it can be discussed. I think that's the same for things >> that're released elsewhere. for instance cool blind tech did an >> overview of what is going to be in iOS 9. maybe they >> shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but they did. >> >> >> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler >> <<mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you >>> make something available to everybody and then swear everybody >>> to secrecy. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn >>> <<mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>jdawg1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no >>>> longer "need" to have a developer account. Thus making it a >>>> "public" beta. NDA still applies. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler >>>> <<mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then why >>>>> can’t questions be asked? If it’s as it was before and it >>>>> wasn’t public, then I could understand. But if Apple is >>>>> now going public with their betas, then I would think this >>>>> is open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing the public >>>>> beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the question. >>>>> Thanks. >>>>> >>>>> Les >>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>> <<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have to say in this particular case, I agree with >>>>>> Sadam. It's not like he's asking for specifics. He just >>>>>> wanted a general yes, or no. >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, >>>>>> admittedly, this is kind of a grey area, as what one may >>>>>> think is unstable, someone else may not really be as >>>>>> concerned about. >>>>>> >>>>>> Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to >>>>>> install, for what it's worth. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're to >>>>>> the point of being debilitating. >>>>>> >>>>>> Chris. >>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Sadam Ahmed >>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com> *To:* >>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, where in my message am I going into specifics? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there are >>>>>>> a couple of issues. That would suffice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With Best regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Diploma of International Business candidate >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RMIT University >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blog: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Http://www.SadamAhmed.com <http://www.sadamahmed.com/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent using OS X Mail >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 9:30 pm, Ray Foret Jr >>>>>>>> <<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With respect, I disagree. You did ask for something >>>>>>>> to specific to discuss with you either privately or >>>>>>>> otherwise. To ask how stable a beta OS is something >>>>>>>> that touches on a degree of specifity which is not >>>>>>>> something I for one am willing to go in to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and >>>>>>>> Apple TV user! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full >>>>>>>> accessibility for the blind built-in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:39 AM, >>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com>sadam.li...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ray, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not asking for specifics. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Only gauging the suitability of putting this on my >>>>>>>>> Mac. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The question was quite broad. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Don't think it breaks NDA. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 7:23 pm, Ray Foret Jr >>>>>>>>> <<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>rforet7...@comcast.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let me gentally remind you that we cannot discuss >>>>>>>>>> beta findings here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and >>>>>>>>>> Apple TV user! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full >>>>>>>>>> accessibility for the blind built-in >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:40 AM, >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com>sadam.li...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would like to install the current beta and am >>>>>>>>>>> wondering how stable the current release is? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you would like to make contact off the list >>>>>>>>>>> regarding this feel free to reach out. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are >>>>>>>>>>> subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. 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