Careful George,

You’ll set him off again…for the umteenth time.  I mean after all, when I 
posted this msg this thread was up to a count of 38.  Oh, and about a dozen of 
those were from He whom shall not be mentioned.  

Sort of ridiculous,

CJ


> On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:11 PM, george b <gbma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Chris are you some kind of loney person
> They ask on this list not to answer with one liners, but I gess you think one 
> words are ok to fill up peoples in boxes
>  
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark 
> Gilland
> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 11:58
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: OS X beta.
>  
> Yeah...
>  
> I kind a wondered that same thing.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Daniel Miller <mailto:miller...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 1:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: OS X beta.
>>  
>> What are you talking about? They don’t allow anything that hasn’t been 
>> publicly divulged to be discussed. *sighs* here we go, again.
>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Joe Quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> really, that I didn't know. That's bad then. :(
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Well, it really doesn't matter to me. I really could care less what Apple 
>>>> does. But the fact that they will allow iOS nine to be discussed and not 
>>>> OS X, that actually reinforces my opinion. Just my two cents worth.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Joe Quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, 
>>>>> rather than reply again, I'll just put my original reply below. It still 
>>>>> stands. The only thing I'll say different is that if ya don't like, or 
>>>>> have questions about,e Apple or their policies in reguards to beta 
>>>>> software, contact them about it. :( 
>>>>> it may not make sense, but that's the way it is. NDA, and all that. in 
>>>>> spite of it being public, ya still can't talk about it publically. now if 
>>>>> something's released about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I 
>>>>> think that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for instance 
>>>>> cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be in iOS 9. maybe 
>>>>> they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but they did.
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make 
>>>>>> something available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer 
>>>>>>> "need" to have a developer account.  Thus making it a "public" beta. 
>>>>>>> NDA still applies.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> <mailto:kriegle...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Okay, a question here.  If this is a public beta, then why can’t 
>>>>>>>> questions be asked?  If it’s as it was before and it wasn’t public, 
>>>>>>>> then I could understand.  But if Apple is now going public with their 
>>>>>>>> betas, then I would think this is open for discussion.  Now, if Im 
>>>>>>>> confusing the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the 
>>>>>>>> question.  Thanks. 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Les
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> I have to say in this particular case, I agree with Sadam.  It's not 
>>>>>>>>> like he's asking for specifics.  He just wanted a general yes, or no.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, admittedly, this 
>>>>>>>>> is kind of a grey area, as what one may think is unstable, someone 
>>>>>>>>> else may not really be as concerned about.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to install, for what 
>>>>>>>>> it's worth.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're to the point 
>>>>>>>>> of being debilitating.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: Sadam Ahmed <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OS X beta.
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> So, where in my message am I going into specifics?  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there are a couple of 
>>>>>>>>>> issues. That would suffice. 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> With Best regards,     
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Diploma of International Business candidate 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> RMIT University 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Blog: 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Http://www.SadamAhmed.com <http://www.sadamahmed.com/> 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Sent using OS X Mail 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 9:30 pm, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net 
>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> With respect, I disagree.  You did ask for something to specific to 
>>>>>>>>>>> discuss with you either privately or otherwise.  To ask how stable 
>>>>>>>>>>> a beta OS is something that touches on a degree of specifity which 
>>>>>>>>>>> is not something I for one am willing to go in to. 
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>>>>>>>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:39 AM, sadam.li...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not asking for specifics. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only gauging the suitability of putting this on my Mac. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> The question was quite broad. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't think it breaks NDA. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone  
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Aug 2015, at 7:23 pm, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me gentally remind you that we cannot discuss beta findings 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> here. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:40 AM, sadam.li...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to install the current beta and am wondering how 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stable the current release is? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you would like to make contact off the list regarding this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feel free to reach out. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadam Ahmed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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