I figured that was the case. I just wanted to confirm.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com>
To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: El Capitan Is Here
This is all in the final release, the betas don't even enter into it. I saw
the severity and frequency of this problem fluctuate through the different
El Cap betas, but I'm referring here only to the final version.
On Oct 1, 2015, at 15:01, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Is that in the beta though, or the official release? Sorry for asking.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@icloud.com>
To: "'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: El Capitan Is Here
Just to address the mail problem. Yes, this was a bug in Yosemite as well,
and yes, it's random. What I meant to say in my bug, and what I don't
think I made clear, is that El Cap has made it worse. For instance, I used
to sometimes get the sender's name and the text in a scroll area. Now, in
El Cap, I nearly always get that, and am sometimes not even placed there
but rather on a toolbar that has no message text at all. So yes, this bug
has been around for a while, but El Cap has (on my machine) made it worse.
Sorry for any confusion on this one.
On Oct 1, 2015, at 14:50, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Just wanted to throw in my two cents worth to say that ever since
Yosemite, I have also had that intermittant issue with e-mail messages
not reading when you open them. Yeah, you can hit vo+J from the message
list table, but I'm old school. I prefer literally openning the message
with the return key. Call me weird, but that's that. LOL! So, just
wanted to acknowledge that you're not alone on that one bug. I've seen
it too, and hate it!
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Goodin" <doniado...@me.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2015 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: El Capitan Is Here
Hi Mary,
The one that bugs me the most on a day-to-day basis is the one pertaining
to mail messages. It's very rare that I open a message and just get to
read it. I very often have to open and close it several times.
there were others I noticed, I think pertaining to the Safari busy. and
having to show and hide the reader a couple of times. But the mail one
is the bug that really drives me crazy.
Take care,
Donna
On Oct 1, 2015, at 11:35 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Donna,
I would be curious which of Alex's bugs you experienced in Yosemite.
Some of the ones I recall reading on his list I am certainly not
experiencing, and those are some of the more serious ones. Audio ducking
doesn't much concern me. But the web stuff, getting stuck on webpages,
the problems with the neuance etc., those do concern me a lot.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 1, 2015, at 4:45 AM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I finally had a minute to read Alex's bugs list. I thought it worth
mentioning that many of those bugs are bugs I'm currently experiencing
in Yosemite. so, while I confess I was hoping they would be fixed in
el Capitán, these are not new bugs, just old ones that didn't get
fixed.
Cheers,
Donna
On Sep 30, 2015, at 12:56 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug
list for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as
there are some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog,
and did a podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
Bug List:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
New Features Blog:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
New Features Podcast:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a
little arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give
people a single place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those
are the only accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
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