I've been reporting the cutting off in SAfari but also in other applications repeatedly to Apple during El Capitan beta testing and indeed things have got better. but when I installed El Capitan over Yosemite, the cutting of was still a bit annoying to me. That's why I decided to do clean install of El Capitan which has dealt with the cutting off successfully and everything is working much better now in Safari, Mail and overall. I did the clean install with my stomach in my mouth, worried I might mess things up beyond repair. and then the long days of getting all my apps licensed had begun. I must confess I am glad to have done clean install but I would not want to do it regularly. :)
Best wishes Andrew > On 18 Oct 2015, at 10:07, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote: > > Hi, > The bug with VO cutting off words in links in Safari is confirmed here. It > was really bad once during the beta cycles so i reported it to the bug > reporter and it has gotten gradually better but we’re not all the way there > yet. For me, and i repeat for me though, it’s not a deal breaker. > Regarding your mail bug, are you by any chance using Gmail as your mail > provider? I have seen this bug you mention where mail can’t be moved to trash > but only from Gmail accounts. This happened earlier than ElCap but is still > present. Is there maybe a communication problem between GMail and the mail > client? > /Krister > >> 17 okt. 2015 kl. 22:23 skrev Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com>: >> >> Hi Jamie, >> >> I had serious safari bugs with VO being extremely unstable meaning sites >> that i personally visit a lot fantasy pros and Facebook two that come right >> to mind constantly would cause VO to crash. When I say crash VO would turn >> off as I would hear the click VO makes when you turn it on and then I would >> hear Welcome to VoiceOVer. Additionally on a lot of sites if you were going >> from link to link using your down arrow VO would read one link but not the >> next link. You would have to hit the up arrow then down arrow again and then >> VO would read the next link. Got to be quite frustrating and >> counterproductive. I did enjoy the snappiness and responsiveness of VO in >> mail, but in mail while going through these lists and deleting messages I >> would constantly get error messages that mail could not move the deleted >> item to the trash therefore cluttering up my inbox. >> >> I decided to roll back to Yosemite which was a bloody awful experience as I >> got something I have never seen before on a mac meaning VO was basically >> reading a word then gone for a minute or two then back and same over and >> over. Spoke to Apple Accessibility this morning and the guy was fantastic. >> We went over all of my issues the exact steps I took and the guy even >> admitted that yes, VO users have had some very serious issues in El Capitan >> and that the fix is coming soon. He then got me started on doing a time >> machine restore. I left for a few hours just got back and thankfully >> everything is back to running the way it was on Yosemite. So yes a lot of >> frustration and anger, but not once did I say I was leaving Apple, and I am >> quite thankful to have such a valuable resource as the Apple Accessibility >> phone number and Time Machine. >>> On Oct 17, 2015, at 3:44 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> But it IS opinions regardless who says what. Its not a new concept that >>> when someone has trouble with say, OS X, that makes Windows look very >>> appealing. Or the opposite. How many times have we seen unhappy users of >>> iOS devices state they will go with some other brand? Its a knee jerk >>> reaction to what seems to be insurmountable frustrations. We do not need to >>> feed into this. >>> >>> Chris, you are right up there with the best of them in this respect. Yet >>> how some people on this list overlook *your* drama and try their best to >>> help you? My hat is off to those people. >>> >>> We all have our moments of insurmountable frustration. Its a good time to >>> walk away, get some fresh air or coffee, anything but sit there fuming. >>> >>> A good strategy would be akin to a well known TV detective hwo would say, >>> "Just the facts, ma'am". In other works, state the issue, leave the drama >>> out of it, get to the point and pray that someone will provide a quick >>> solution. And if you were smart and walked away, you just might come back >>> to that solution. >>> >>> The indisputable truth of it is that nothing will ever be 100% just the way >>> we want it. When Apple works. Apple is peachy. But let one thing go wrong >>> and Apple is the scum of the earth. That accomplishes nothing. Fact is, >>> human error will *always* be part of the equation. There is no escaping >>> that. >>> >>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>> Many believe that we have been visited >>> in the past. What if it were true? >>> >>> On 10/17/2015 11:36 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>> I'm not meaning this to be disrespectful, but I agree totally with >>>> Jamie. In all this drama about how the mac is worse, and how Windows is >>>> becoming more appealing, we've lost the main topic. It's so bad now, I >>>> don't even know what exactly the initial bugs are. >>>> Can someone give a refresher, without that is, being all slammy toward >>>> either Windows, or toward Apple? Leave your opinions out. For now, I >>>> just want the facts. >>>> Again, I definitely mean this with all due respect. >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Jamie Pauls <mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 17, 2015 1:27 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: Safari on the Mac worse than ever? >>>> >>>> To be honest, I’ve not seen the horrible Safari issues some are >>>> experiencing. What are a few of the worst bugs, here? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Take care and have a great day. >>>> Jamie Pauls >>>> jamiepa...@gmail.com <mailto:jamiepa...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM, Sabahattin Gucukoglu >>>>> <listse...@me.com <mailto:listse...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You can report bugs to accessibil...@apple.com >>>>> <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com>. 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