Hi Esther, thanks for that explanation. 
On Nov 15, 2009, at 4:05 PM, Esther wrote:

> 
> Hi Chantel,
> 
> A hard drive enclosure is basically an external case for a hard drive  
> with connectors, and sometimes a power supply.  Max means that if  
> you're removing a laptop hard drive, and using it to boot another  
> laptop, that if you put the hard drive into an enclosure you can  
> connect the drive via the USB or firewire connectors of the enclosure  
> to another computer, and then boot from there.  If you take the drive  
> out of a laptop, you have no way of using the hard drive for another  
> laptop unless you open the second laptop and exchange its hard drive,  
> or unless you put the first hard drive into an enclosure, and connect  
> the USB or Firewire port to the corresponding ports of the second  
> laptop via USB or FIrewire cables.
> 
> I use this the other way around.  I have some older laptop drives that  
> I exchanged out, and put into enclosures to use as added storage  
> space.  It's also cheaper to buy the bare drives, especially when this  
> is new technology, larger capacity and faster laptop hard drives, and  
> then put them into an enclosure, clone the hard drive of your laptop  
> with an application like Carbon Copy Cloner or SuperDuper (paid app,  
> but free trial version supports cloning), and then swap in the cloned  
> drive into your laptop.
> 
> You can buy a laptop drive enclosure for about $10 to $40. Go to a web  
> site like http://www.newegg.com and search for SATA laptop hard drive  
> enclosure.  Here's an example of one one of their top-rated products:
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817347013
> 
> It costs more ($31.23) because it supports both USB 2 and Firewire  
> connections. You don't actually need to have an SATA drive or laptop  
> enclosure to use a hard drive -- this is simply matched to the kinds  
> of hard drives that are currently used in Mac laptops.  (Someone with  
> an older PowerBook would use an IDE drive, which has different types  
> of connectors, and the enclosure might be cheaper; you could still use  
> it to connect and boot off a drive -- you just couldn't place your  
> current MacBook drive into that type of enclosure or use it for  
> cloning your drive if you wanted to swap hard drives, since it  
> wouldn't be compatible).
> 
> HTH
> 
> Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Sorry for being dumb, but what's a hard drive enclosure?
>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> have you thought about getting a hard drive enclosure?  They aren't
>>> very expensive, and then you could connect it to whatever computer  
>>> you
>>> want via u s b.  My brother has rescued me a couple times over the
>>> years using this method.  good luck, max
>>> On Nov 15, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, I'm gonna get sighted assistance to take out the hard drive  
>>>> from
>>>> this Mac and put it in the other one.  The second isn't mine and I'd
>>>> get in huge trouble if anything ever happened to it.  Anyway, I  
>>>> think
>>>> just emptying the trash and deleting cookies etc should be fine.  It
>>>> isn't confidential for work or anything. *smile*  I also want to  
>>>> save
>>>> a folder to my desktop but that one's not too important.  It's  
>>>> really
>>>> too bad that I can't just start up my Mac or connect the two somehow
>>>> to do this stuff instead of messing around with the drives  
>>>> themselves.
>>>> 
>>>> On 15/11/2009, ben mustill-rose <bmustillr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you really think that some apple tech is really going to be
>>>>> interested in your diary or something? If your worrid about
>>>>> passwords,
>>>>> surely theres a way to make apps like safari forget them?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 15/11/2009, Tiffany D <tiffani...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Some of them are personal and I'd like to delete them for safety
>>>>>> reasons.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 15/11/2009, ben mustill-rose <bmustillr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If the drive is a user replaceable part, it won't void anything.
>>>>>>> If I
>>>>>>> were in your situation I would just take the drive out and usb it
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> another machine, but i'm not sure what osx does about accessing
>>>>>>> encrypted files - ie: all your data?? The other problem your
>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>> have is that you probably don't have a sata to usb converter to
>>>>>>> connect the drive to another machine, however, if you have a
>>>>>>> desktop
>>>>>>> with sata ports, you can open it up and plug the drive in that
>>>>>>> way if
>>>>>>> you really really want to.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just out of interest, why do you want to delete your files? Its  
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> like the drives dead, so you should be getting it back just as  
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> sent it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 15/11/2009, Tiffany D <tiffani...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, the built-in keyboard started working for a bit and then
>>>>>>>> quit
>>>>>>>> again.  Now I can't even turn the machine on.  I tried charging
>>>>>>>> it and
>>>>>>>> that didn't work.  I removed the battery to use it on ac power  
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> still no luck.  I've got files in there that I want to delete
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> sending it in.  We have another Macbook in the house and I tried
>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>> adapters and got the same result.  Is there a way for me to jump
>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>> mine with the other one, or to connect the two using a usb  
>>>>>>>> cord or
>>>>>>>> something so I could access the hard drive?  I want to remove  
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> drive and put it in the other Mac but Mom says that'll void the
>>>>>>>> warranty.  At this point, I don't really care.  I just want my
>>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>>> out and for this to end.  Please, if anyone can help me, I'd
>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Eleni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 13/11/2009, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If you purchased Apple Care for your machine, then it likely
>>>>>>>>> is. If you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> Apple Care, you should call them or get to an Apple store/
>>>>>>>>> authorized
>>>>>>>>> dealer
>>>>>>>>> as soon as possible. After all, 2010 isn't very far away.
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:27 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> This external keyboard is driving me nuts!  It seems to be
>>>>>>>>>> missing a
>>>>>>>>>> key on the left side (my macbook has four on that side and
>>>>>>>>>> this one
>>>>>>>>>> only has three), the escape key is stuck down and I can't
>>>>>>>>>> shift tab,
>>>>>>>>>> though I can tab.  I haven't changed synths to hear the pitch
>>>>>>>>>> when I
>>>>>>>>>> write a capital letter so must do that to see what's going on
>>>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I'm wondering if this is still under warranty.  I got
>>>>>>>>>> it in
>>>>>>>>>> December 2007.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> Eleni
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 12/11/2009, Tiffany D <tiffani...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Aa bravo.  Thanks.  That makes my life a whole lot easier.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/11/2009, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Most any card reader will work fine on the Mac.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 7:03 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay.  I got my external keyboard and it works fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is, it seems to be a hardware issue.  I wonder if it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>> help to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrade to the latest version of Leopard.  I'm gonna do an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> update
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> see what happens.  I had this happen last time and they put
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard, so it should be doing this.  Also, last time, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> few keys.  Now, it seems to be the whole keyboard.  Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of a compact flash card reader that's compatible with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mac?  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning on getting some type II cards and an adapter in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any case
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use with my Windows and DOS machines, but I might have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sooner than I thought.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eleni
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/11/2009, Tiffany D <tiffani...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm responding with my old address, where I get full
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> messages, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> won't clutter the inboxes of those who get this list in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like I do at the other.  Anyway, I'll definitely try the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got my macbook in December of 2007.  It's running whatever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was before the last automatic update.  I never really took
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notice,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sorry.  If anyone has any other suggestions, please feel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> free to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> offer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eleni
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12/11/2009, James & Nash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <james.austin1...@googlemail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Eleni,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well it doesn't sound as if your sound is muted as VO
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greets you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version of Mac OS X are you running and when did you buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your Mac
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2008?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Eleni Vamvakari" <magkis...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Major Problem with macbook, Need Help ASAP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sending to The Zone BBS and Mac Visionaries.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm having a major problem with my Macbook and have no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going on.  I was writing something in Text Edit and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I lost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speech.  I tried turning Voiceover back on but with no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> luck.  So
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restarted the machine.  It started fine but again, no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speech
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pressed keys.  Yet Voiceover does start cause it greets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does Skype, so I know the programs are working.  It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard control has completely gone.  I checked to see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because I had it on Greek layout but that's not the case
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the command for turning VO on and off isn't working.  I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> external keyboard but don't know where it is right now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to test
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the hardware.  Any suggestions or help would really be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no other modern machines available now except the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I'm working on which is downstairs and I'm now  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> living
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upstairs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm on Windows now, and this pc has some kind of a mic/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem, so aside from replying here, I can only use MSN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scholar1...@hotmail.com, e-mail magkis...@gmail.com or,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resort, the chat portion of Skype Therebetisa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eleni
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Kind regards, BEN.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
>>>>>>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Kind regards, BEN.
>>>>> 
>>>>> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
>>>>> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
>>>>> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
> 
> 
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