Point taken and well made.  For what it's worth, I rather doubt it will 
actually heppen that the headphone jack will go.  
!

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Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

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> On Jan 18, 2016, at 7:58 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Ray,
>  
> You! are also failing to see something though.  You're point is valid and 
> well taken, don't get me wrong here, but what about those who don't have 
> headphones with a lightning connecter.  Or what about those like myself who 
> use both Apple, and! Android products?  Are we gonna be left in the cold 
> having to buy two different pares of headphones, and lug both them around 
> with us?  Surely that seems absurd.
>  
> Before you say, there are adapters probably being made, take it from a guy 
> who's a certified engineer.  If you take an 8th inch plug, and pop a 
> lightning adapter on it, the bottom line is the signal is traveling down the 
> line from the lightning, to the 3.5M plug, down the headphone cord, and to 
> your earpieces.  The point being, that signal might have started as digital, 
> giving you the new to come high resolution, but ultimately by the time it 
> hits your ears, it will have been carried down the line to your stereo 3.5M 
> jack in the adapter, and at that point, your headphones won't know what to do 
> with that signal.  It would most likely be converted to an annalog signal.  
> Therefore, the only way you'd truly get that benefit is no adapter.  Plug 
> directly in, which means new headphones for us, which means more marketting 
> by Apple, and more money for Apple.
>  
> I'm just sayin'.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Ray Foret Jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: Apple's headphone scam
>> 
>> I would advise having nothing to do with this.  You are overlooking an 
>> obvious benefit;  and it's not just more money for Apple:  rather it's this. 
>>  The plain fact is that it's better to lose the headphone jack because you 
>> can get much better audio out of the lightning connecter than you can out of 
>> the 3.5MM jack.  With the use of the lightning connecter, you can take 
>> advantage of the high resolution audio format which Apple is said to be 
>> roling out soon.  Also, there are other advantages besides.  Don't fall for 
>> this emotional knee-jerk nonsense.
>> 
>> 
>> !
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,
>> 
>> Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
>> iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 4:54 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:terjestrmb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Friends,
>>> 
>>> If the rumours are true, the iPhone 7 will have a non-standard, proprietary 
>>> headphone jack -- meaning piles more cash for Apple and miles more e-waste 
>>> for the rest of us.
>>> 
>>> Sign this petition to get Apple to stick to the standard headphone jack on 
>>> the iPhone: http://action.sumofus.org/a/iphone-headphone-jack/?sub=mtl 
>>> <http://action.sumofus.org/a/iphone-headphone-jack/?sub=mtl>
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