In Apple store, a link to an expensive, but maybe good sounding Audeze EL-8 
Titanium headphones with both lightning/dac in the cable. Also have standard 
3.5mm jack.  
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HJLS2VC/A/audeze-el-8-titanium-closed-back-headphones

Take care

18. jan. 2016 kl. 14:58 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com>:

Ray,
 
You! are also failing to see something though.  You're point is valid and well 
taken, don't get me wrong here, but what about those who don't have headphones 
with a lightning connecter.  Or what about those like myself who use both 
Apple, and! Android products?  Are we gonna be left in the cold having to buy 
two different pares of headphones, and lug both them around with us?  Surely 
that seems absurd.
 
Before you say, there are adapters probably being made, take it from a guy 
who's a certified engineer.  If you take an 8th inch plug, and pop a lightning 
adapter on it, the bottom line is the signal is traveling down the line from 
the lightning, to the 3.5M plug, down the headphone cord, and to your 
earpieces.  The point being, that signal might have started as digital, giving 
you the new to come high resolution, but ultimately by the time it hits your 
ears, it will have been carried down the line to your stereo 3.5M jack in the 
adapter, and at that point, your headphones won't know what to do with that 
signal.  It would most likely be converted to an annalog signal.  Therefore, 
the only way you'd truly get that benefit is no adapter.  Plug directly in, 
which means new headphones for us, which means more marketting by Apple, and 
more money for Apple.
 
I'm just sayin'.
 
Chris.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Ray Foret Jr
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: Apple's headphone scam

I would advise having nothing to do with this.  You are overlooking an obvious 
benefit;  and it's not just more money for Apple:  rather it's this.  The plain 
fact is that it's better to lose the headphone jack because you can get much 
better audio out of the lightning connecter than you can out of the 3.5MM jack. 
 With the use of the lightning connecter, you can take advantage of the high 
resolution audio format which Apple is said to be roling out soon.  Also, there 
are other advantages besides.  Don't fall for this emotional knee-jerk nonsense.


!

Sent from my Mac, The Only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray,

Still a very happy Comcast XFinity Voice Guidance, Mac, Verizon Wireless 
iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Jan 18, 2016, at 4:54 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Friends,
> 
> If the rumours are true, the iPhone 7 will have a non-standard, proprietary 
> headphone jack -- meaning piles more cash for Apple and miles more e-waste 
> for the rest of us.
> 
> Sign this petition to get Apple to stick to the standard headphone jack on 
> the iPhone: http://action.sumofus.org/a/iphone-headphone-jack/?sub=mtl
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