Look y'all. Apple knows what they're doing here. Music, and sound, have always 
been one thing they're good at. If Apple removes the current headphone jack and 
replaced them with lightning headphones, the new EarPods might be able to do 
more things, like have sensors in them or do things that consumers never even 
knew could be done. Come on, let your little old pair of headphones go for a 
change. Once the iPhone comes out, headphone makers will have made new versions 
for Apple's phones anyways. And let's be real. Who all carries around two types 
of phones now? Who doesn't just carry around their iPhone and either a keyboard 
or a braille display, or if you're least fortunate, a notetaker? Even if you do 
have a notetaker, you can stand to use it with braille. 
Just wait and see how marvelous the future is.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:42 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote:
> 
> A consumer wouldn’t know the difference between a bluetooth or a 
> toothbrush.:)  The fact is most consumers know what bluetooth does roughly 
> and they know they might use it but they have no idea the differences in the 
> protocols.  There are exceptions of course but the vast majority walk in to 
> best buy and buy the cheapest model or the one they claim to be the best 
> model but it’s all based on product placement and advertising, not real facts.
> 
> There are consumers who will drill down and learn more they just aren’t the 
> majority.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 2:38 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I am wondering two things then.
>> First, what makes this a scam exactly?  Is Apple planning to deceive people  
>> with this effort?
>> Second, based on the below, who are "most consumers," exactly?  if people do 
>> not have much choice with the bluetooth quality, then how does that mean 
>> better quality might be a waste?  A consumer  may be feeling powerless to 
>> get anything better, which does not mean they might not want something 
>> better.
>> Just my thoughts,
>> Kare
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2016, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>> 
>>> True,
>>> 
>>> but for the majority of consumers, bluetooth is good enough. High end audio 
>>> is just wasted on many people.
>>> 
>>> JMo.
>>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 12:58 PM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi!
>>>> Possibly.
>>>> But bluetooth is not as good quality as airplay if you’re not using the 
>>>> atpx protocol which apple doesn’t do.
>>>> /A
>>>>> 19 jan. 2016 kl. 00:45 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm wonderring if that may be because there are so many bluetooth model 
>>>>> devices out there, that maybe Apple just didn't see the point.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anders Holmberg" 
>>>>> <and...@pipkrokodil.se>
>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2016 5:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple's headphone scam
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> One thing i am concerned about is why there’s not any airplay headphones 
>>>>> around yet?
>>>>> /A
>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2016, at 15:37, Sabahattin Gucukoglu <listse...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m afraid I just can’t quite bring myself to be sufficiently moved.  I 
>>>>>> don’t like planned obsolescence or proprietary standards either, but I’m 
>>>>>> also in the market for a new pair of travel headphones, and I actually 
>>>>>> would love a digital path between my iPhone and my headset.  I was not 
>>>>>> among those poor souls hurt by the 30-pin to Lightning transition, 
>>>>>> because I was not quite so silly as to buy expensive equipment with that 
>>>>>> connector.  And, yes, electronic waste is a terrible, terrible thing, 
>>>>>> but I doubt Apple will fail to provide a transition for users of the 
>>>>>> 3.5-mm plug.  I know it’s painful, but we do need to move forward.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> JMO.
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