It's kind of funny. I think a lot of the folks who insist that 1Password is 
phenomenal haven't really bothered trying to use many of its features. Don't 
get me wrong: I really do think that if I slaved over this thing every day and 
got really used to its eccentricities, I would be at least somewhat ok with it. 
I just don't want to have to do that. And, the reality is that when the very 
thing it is supposed to accomplish isn't working (passwords entered backward, 
etc) I get very frustrated very quickly. I've been told that the developer is 
very responsive. I just don't want to waste the time attempting to get issues 
resolved. I'm lazy. I just want it to work. As expensive as it is, it should 
just work.






On Mar 5, 2016, at 1:28 PM, Grant <grant.li...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hey Chris, I stand corrected, I mostly just use 1Password to maintain logins 
but after reading your other thread I started trying to add other items like 
wireless base stations, and I’m seeing all the issues you reported in the 
details table such as being unable to edit passwords and unable to focus on all 
the controls. Unfortunately however, things didn’t improve for me once I turned 
on rich icons, so I’m not sure what could be going on here.

Grant

> On Mar 5, 2016, at 6:40 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> OK, just got with a guy on Twitter over DM who uses 1Password with Voiceover. 
>  I think we found out a huge part of my problem.
>  
> Don't! and I repeat, don't! disable rich icons!  If you do, Oh God're you 
> gonna have a mess!  My logic of thinking was two things.
>  
> 1.  What is an icon gonna mean to me, being it's just an image?
>  
> 2.  It said we never send your personal data, but apparently it uses a 3rd 
> party source to get the images for the rich icons.  I'm a huge! believer in 
> security, and the less stuff I can have sent to an outsource, the better.  
> Therefore, when I heard that an outsourced system would generate the icons, I 
> said, Oh? no you don't!  Therefore, I turned rich icons off.  That was 
> apparently a mistake on my part.  I guess it kind a changes the user 
> interface when you do that, causing the details table on each item to be very 
> very difficuylt to navigate, if not nearly impossible.  So, yeah, if you've 
> done a stupid is, as stupid does, like I did, no worry.  Go into the app, and 
> unlock your valt with your master password.  Then, hit vo+M to go to your 
> menu bar.  In here go over to the view menu.  In the view menu, you can 
> toggle rich icons back on.  Just turn it back on, and then you should be able 
> to navigate the columns just fine.
>  
> Now, one bug I've found which my friend on Twitter also was able to reproduce 
> is, in each row of the table under your details for an item, there's a place 
> to obviously type in the data value.  So say you have a row called "User 
> name."  To the right of that label name, you'll see the text box to type in 
> the value.  Just beyond that, this is where the bug comes into play.  There 
> is a popup button apparently called, "type menu button."  For what ever 
> strange reason, I cannot no matter what I try get that button to gain focus.  
> Even using the mouse keys as Ray recommended isn't exactly working.  I can 
> get to the type menu button on the most bottom row that is for a new label 
> which you custom create, but past that point, if it's a label already created 
> by the app itself, then forget it.  I definitely will be writing the 
> developers regarding this bug, as apparently, from what my friend said, he's 
> not been too concerned about it, but it's apparently been around for a while 
> now.
>  
> So, yeah, I think for the most part, I've got it working, but I'll let you 
> all know if I get tripped up again.
>  
> Chris.
> 
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