Well, let’s remember, the UN climate group did fudge their numbers which is a proven fact so that does sort of lead towards the hoax factor. Let’s also remember when it’s been demonstrated that recent temperatures are cooling if anything the global warming crowd changed their phrase from global warming to climate change. Let’s also note the sun has had an increase in output over the last century that fluctuates but also correlates with temperature and weather changes recorded both on the planet and on other planets such as temperature changes recorded on Mars although we have a very narrow data set there so it’s hard to say that’s a trend with a lack of data.
The fact is the global warming crowd or climate change or what ever you call it now is in a bubble, an Al Gorr generated bubble generated specifically to put money in Mr. Gorr’s pocket with the carbon credits scheme. There’s also a culture of firing scientists who contest the findings which happens in many established areas of research but especially here. It’s a scam to put money in Gorr’s and Decrapio’s pockets among others not a real effort to reduce pollution. If it was real then people would be researching real energy alternatives like Nuclear and wouldn’t cut funding for things like the national ignition project. So yes, Global warming is a scam. These were the same folks who used to cry nuclear winter and previously claimed an ice age was coming and change their positions through out history. The sky is not falling and I for one am not going to support the enrichment of the Gorr family based on fabricated science that even the united nations was forced to admit to. There are so many wholes in the theory starting with the lack of long term data and deliberate fudging of data to prove an imaginary point through to the lack of compensation for the heat reflectivity changes caused by the increase in use of concrete near temperature measuring stations which cause a small but measurable delta in the data which they refuse to correct for. > On Nov 10, 2016, at 12:15 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl....@gmail.com> wrote: > > My point was not that it was never reasonable to be skeptical about global > warming. My point was that it was never sensible to assert that scientists > were trying to pull off a hoax. If you think it was ever reasonable to > assert that global warming was a hoax, then you should not be allowed to vote > at least until you get your head on straight. > > PS: I am willing to debate global warming with you any time any place. The > facts are on my side. > > > > > > > On 11/10/2016 10:35 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> Who boy we should move this over to the off topic list because I could blow >> huge holes in your global warming position. Scientists did infect fudge >> factor data and I can show you hard space weather data that indicates >> similar warming trends on other planets.;) >> >> That doesn’t mean I think we should be pumping crap in to the air and sea >> but the global warming deal is just a scheme to enrich a few. The next time >> Leonardo Decrapio tells me I need to use less energy while he’s flying >> around in his Gulfstream G5-50 burning more energy per hour than I do in my >> life I’ll smack him with a trout. >> >>> On Nov 10, 2016, at 11:31 AM, Todor Fassl <fassl....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> The USA has a long, disgraceful history of preventing minorities from >>> voting via poll tests. So I know making people prove they know *something* >>> before they vote is not practical. It would be nice though. If you ever >>> thought global warming was a hoax, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. I >>> don't mean if you ever hoped it wasn't true. I mean if you ever believed >>> scientists were deliberately making it up, then you should never again be >>> allowed to vote. Well, maybe that is a bit harsh. You should have to prove >>> you have learned your lesson though. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/10/2016 10:13 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>> One thing I appreciate about countries like Australia is that they >>>> recognize that those who choose not to participate in the voting process >>>> hurt the country as a whole. >>>> So, they did and I believe still do, require you to vote or pay a fine. >>>> The choice to be willfully ignorant is often not something that a city, >>>> county or country can afford. >>>> I respect that many might not have enjoyed the menu options, but >>>> choosing to skip the democratic process is especially damaging where, >>>> like stateside, it is more of an electoral college election than a >>>> general public mandate anymore. >>>> Speaking only for myself, it seems time to give voters a clear >>>> incentive to educate themselves about those issues. fine want to stay >>>> home enough to pay a fine for that right? >>>> Kare >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 10 Nov 2016, Todor Fassl wrote: >>>> >>>>> But why? Why should people who know nothing about the issues vote? >>>>> Just repeating your opinion that they should vote is no answer. >>>>> >>>>> It's like saying you should get brain surgery even if you're not sure >>>>> you have something wrong with your brain. Just sign yourself up for >>>>> random medical treatments, who knows, some of them might even help. >>>>> >>>>> Instead of picking someone at random, if you haven't studied the >>>>> issues, you should STAY HOME! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> repeating that they should vote is NO answer. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 11/08/2016 05:19 PM, Robin wrote: >>>>>> I Disagree >>>>>> Voting is a Right & EveryOne should Vote >>>>>> No Matter What iff Eligible >>>>>> At 02:26 PM 11/8/2016, you wrote: >>>>>>> I don't think people should vote just for the sake of voting. That's >>>>>>> how bad guys get elected -- ignorant voters put them in office. If >>>>>> you >>>>>>> havent studied the issues, please stay home. >>>>>>>>>> On 11/08/2016 05:50 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>>> For our friends in the US, >>>>>>>> Totally apolitical here and please please let’s keep it >>>>>>>> that way. Get out there and vote today, do your civic duty >>>>>>>> regardless of your party / candidate / beliefs just get out and >>>>>> have >>>>>>>> your voice heard if you haven’t already. >>>>>>>> Uber is offering a $20 credit for a trip to your polling >>>>>>>> place, Lyft has a similar deal with up to $45 in credits, and >>>>>> Google >>>>>>>> also has the means to arrange a ride for you and provide some >>>>>> credits >>>>>>>> to get to your closest polls. the parties are offering rides and >>>>>>>> volunteer services as well. >>>>>>>> Also, make sure you take advantage of the deals available >>>>>>>> today to voters. Keep that “I voted†sticker and Krispy > >>>>>>> Cream >>>>>>>> will give you a free donut, McDonalds and Seven Eleven are giving >>>>>>>> free coffee, and many small businesses are having election day >>>>>>>> promotions that include discounts or out right freebies. >>>>>>>> Remember that many service men and women have fought and >>>>>> died >>>>>>>> for your right to vote so let’s not let them down and make >>>>>> sure > > we >>>>>>>> take advantage of our most powerful expression of our freedom, our >>>>>>>> right to vote. 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