you're right, and had you been discussing any screen reader/prosthetic substitute for site, you'd still be right:) As users regardless of our preferences, we should help the developers keep adding useful features removing dumb ones and cleaning up interfaces that are no longer applicable. On 2009-12-22, at 2:04 PM, Tyler Littlefield wrote:
> Sure, but just because it talks out of the box doesn't mean much. Don't get > me wrong, I love my VO, but there still are things that it needs help with. > On Dec 22, 2009, at 11:51 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> ALthough I agree there needs to be no mission in converting folks,, I do >> believe it makes sense to let any and all know. Whether you like the iPhone >> or not is in my mind irrelevant. What is relevant is the fact that finally >> now a blind or visually impaired person can now go into a store and purchase >> an accessible product, whether that be a computer, iPhone, or iPod, and not >> have to purchase additional and expensive software makes a tremendous >> difference. >> I think there is more to be gained by proving the Mac or other offerings by >> Apple are viable solutions is what will sell the product to a blind or >> visually impaired user honestly. >> >> On Dec 22, 2009, at 12:58 PM, Tyler Littlefield wrote: >> >>> The iphone seems nice enough, but lets not go on a converting rampage. I'm >>> personally getting something else, because I don't like the iphone, even if >>> we had service for it where I'm at. >>> On Dec 22, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Jess wrote: >>> >>>> Hi folks, >>>> >>>> Well, I'm getting the IPhone 3 GS today. But more than that, folks, we >>>> need to keep the trend of switching to the Mac and IPhone going. The more >>>> people we have switching, the more inclined Apple will be to continue >>>> support and development for Voice OVer. >>>> For the first time, I can walk into a store, pick up a phone, and have it >>>> talk out of the box. I don't have to have this special software that makes >>>> my phone accessible, and explain to people, oh, this is special software >>>> that reads aloud what you see on the screen. When I mention to people that >>>> I am going to get the IPhone, I feel a great deal of satisfaction that >>>> people don't look at me and go, well Jess, youre blind, so how the hell >>>> will you be able to use it? It's awesome that I can be treated as an >>>> equal. We half! to keep this trend up! Otherwise, what we have waited for, >>>> hoped for, and longed for, access to something right out of the box, will >>>> soon be gone forever! And by the way, every time I try to convince someone >>>> that accessibility is a right and we have the right to have 100 percent >>>> access to everything we buy, that argument that we are to small of a >>>> market is always what I get. I'm sorry, but Apple is proving that argument >>>> to be void, and I have never agreed with it and never will. Any thoughts >>>> on this post? >>>> >>>> >>>> Jes >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
