Hi Emrah,

Heres an apple tech tip on how to clear sluggish VO movement by deleting the 
Caches folder.
This helps minimize the "busy" issue for me. :)
Basic steps below;
To empty out the Caches folder on your computer, you’ll need to open up Finder 
first. 

With Voiceover on, you can press V O D, and it should default to Finder. Then 
press V O Space. 

Once Finder is the focused application, press V O M to get to the menu bar, 
then V O Right until you reach the Go menu. In the Go menu, select Go To 
Folder. 

The location is ~/Library

Once you’ve typed that in, press Return. 

In the Library folder, you can select the Caches folder and then press Command 
Delete to move it to trash. 

I recommend restarting the computer after you do this.
HTH
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’


On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Emrah wrote:

> Anouk,
> Good point with Mail. I was thinking about mentioning it as I was trying to 
> get to this thread of conversation with my busy busy mail App, and then saw 
> your message.
> Indeed, Mail is also a pain.
> I'm running the latest updates, but have not tried using a different account. 
> What I did though, is make sure that nothing was launching unnecessarily, 
> including the stuff that gets in the Library folders, and the processor is 
> pretty stable.
> Is VoiceOver not multithreading?
> 
> Jonathan, good call on the cursor tracking. I'll look into experimenting with 
> that as well.
> 
> Emrah
>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am using the newest version of os x and it is fully updated.
>> 
>>> On 17 Jan 2018, at 16:02, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, you didn't indicate if you have upgraded to the latest version of the 
>>> OS. Also, have you looked to see if the problems persist when creating a 
>>> temporary account or using the "guest" account on the system. This is a 
>>> good way to see if the slowdowns are a system issue or a configuration 
>>> issue. Note there are some websites that push so much junk around in JS 
>>> that the Macintosh can't keep track of what is where. This can especially 
>>> be the case for Group mode where VoiceOver has some idea of what is is 
>>> played out where. 
>>> 
>>> Another place you can run into trouble is Facebook if navigating bia the 
>>> VoiceOver keystrokes instead of the FB  recognized keys. ) Generally on 
>>> sites that VoiceOver does not work well for me, I will turn off Cursor 
>>> tracking and then make sure to use route functions for entering data. In 
>>> fact, I think I will reassign the numbed enter key to be "route keyboard 
>>> focus to voiceover cursor". This way I can quickly move focus but still 
>>> keep the cursor tracking off. Though this might still have some problems 
>>> with vo-shift-M or vo-space.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17 January 2018 at 05:30, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi, I have the seem problem with my 2013 macbook air with core i7 and 8gb 
>>> of ram. Safari is constantly busy as is often mail.
>>> I have no such problems on ios but os x with voiceover is REALLY sluggish.
>>> And while braille is better then in the last release its still worse then 
>>> what it used to be.
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> 
>>> > On 17 Jan 2018, at 10:26, Emrah <li...@kavun.ch> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi good people,
>>> > I'm seriously starting to lose it with Mac OS, and iOS in general. I have 
>>> > a Macbook Air 11" early 2015 with a Core I7 and 8GB ram, and my overall 
>>> > experience with the OS is super unpleasant.
>>> > Everything feels slow and sluggish, Safari is constantly overwhelmed, 
>>> > even on Apple Websites, and god help me with filling out Web Forms... All 
>>> > I hear is Busy, busy, busy, busy... You can get used to it and take it 
>>> > with patience, but at some point you just know something is wrong and you 
>>> > start getting real upset.
>>> >
>>> > Do you have tips to optimize this? What is going on? This isn't worthy of 
>>> > a company in the hundreds of billions of dollars.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks!
>>> > Emrah
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