I downloaded cleanmymac 3 and have run its scan. Hopefully it will help. Indeed it does not seem to occur with all websites but with some it does and it is consistent. I will have to monitor with which ones specifically and once I find out i will mail apple accessebility. Greetings, Anouk,
> On 17 Jan 2018, at 21:07, Emrah <li...@kavun.ch> wrote: > > Chuck, > I just went ahead and executed on your instructions. I don't know if it's > just a placebo effect, but I'm already feeling some improvement without > rebooting. Haven't done much yet, but if this really has solved my major > issues, I'll be so very grateful to you. Seriously, it's a life-savor tip > there. > Thanks a million! > Emrah > >> On Jan 17, 2018, at 8:13 PM, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com >> <mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Emrah, >> >> >> Heres an apple tech tip on how to clear sluggish VO movement by deleting the >> Caches folder. >> This helps minimize the "busy" issue for me. :) >> Basic steps below; >> To empty out the Caches folder on your computer, you’ll need to open up >> Finder first. >> >> With Voiceover on, you can press V O D, and it should default to Finder. >> Then press V O Space. >> >> Once Finder is the focused application, press V O M to get to the menu bar, >> then V O Right until you reach the Go menu. In the Go menu, select Go To >> Folder. >> >> The location is ~/Library >> >> Once you’ve typed that in, press Return. >> >> In the Library folder, you can select the Caches folder and then press >> Command Delete to move it to trash. >> >> I recommend restarting the computer after you do this. >> HTH >> Chuck >> "God does not play dice with the universe" >> "Albert Einstein’ >> >> >> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:58 PM, Emrah wrote: >> >>> Anouk, >>> Good point with Mail. I was thinking about mentioning it as I was trying to >>> get to this thread of conversation with my busy busy mail App, and then saw >>> your message. >>> Indeed, Mail is also a pain. >>> I'm running the latest updates, but have not tried using a different >>> account. What I did though, is make sure that nothing was launching >>> unnecessarily, including the stuff that gets in the Library folders, and >>> the processor is pretty stable. >>> Is VoiceOver not multithreading? >>> >>> Jonathan, good call on the cursor tracking. I'll look into experimenting >>> with that as well. >>> >>> Emrah >>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 5:28 PM, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am using the newest version of os x and it is fully updated. >>>> >>>>> On 17 Jan 2018, at 16:02, Jonathan Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, you didn't indicate if you have upgraded to the latest version of >>>>> the OS. Also, have you looked to see if the problems persist when >>>>> creating a temporary account or using the "guest" account on the system. >>>>> This is a good way to see if the slowdowns are a system issue or a >>>>> configuration issue. Note there are some websites that push so much junk >>>>> around in JS that the Macintosh can't keep track of what is where. This >>>>> can especially be the case for Group mode where VoiceOver has some idea >>>>> of what is is played out where. >>>>> >>>>> Another place you can run into trouble is Facebook if navigating bia the >>>>> VoiceOver keystrokes instead of the FB recognized keys. ) Generally on >>>>> sites that VoiceOver does not work well for me, I will turn off Cursor >>>>> tracking and then make sure to use route functions for entering data. In >>>>> fact, I think I will reassign the numbed enter key to be "route keyboard >>>>> focus to voiceover cursor". This way I can quickly move focus but still >>>>> keep the cursor tracking off. Though this might still have some problems >>>>> with vo-shift-M or vo-space. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 17 January 2018 at 05:30, Anouk Radix <radix.an...@gmail.com >>>>> <mailto:radix.an...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> Hi, I have the seem problem with my 2013 macbook air with core i7 and 8gb >>>>> of ram. Safari is constantly busy as is often mail. >>>>> I have no such problems on ios but os x with voiceover is REALLY sluggish. >>>>> And while braille is better then in the last release its still worse then >>>>> what it used to be. >>>>> Greetings, Anouk, >>>>> >>>>> > On 17 Jan 2018, at 10:26, Emrah <li...@kavun.ch >>>>> > <mailto:li...@kavun.ch>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi good people, >>>>> > I'm seriously starting to lose it with Mac OS, and iOS in general. I >>>>> > have a Macbook Air 11" early 2015 with a Core I7 and 8GB ram, and my >>>>> > overall experience with the OS is super unpleasant. >>>>> > Everything feels slow and sluggish, Safari is constantly overwhelmed, >>>>> > even on Apple Websites, and god help me with filling out Web Forms... >>>>> > All I hear is Busy, busy, busy, busy... You can get used to it and take >>>>> > it with patience, but at some point you just know something is wrong >>>>> > and you start getting real upset. >>>>> > >>>>> > Do you have tips to optimize this? What is going on? 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