Donna, you are quite right that the 10.5 inch iPad Pro does not have a massively better performance than the cheap 2018 iPad, though the larger iPad Pro is a much faster beast: see review https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/11/29/which-of-apples-2018-ipad-or-ipad-pro-models-should-you-buy Stick with a good iPhone, perhaps? Cheers Harry
> On 24 Feb 2019, at 14:21, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Nah, they weren't pushy. I asked what the differences were. I had ruled out > the Pro because of the price tag, but then I decided I ought to at least know > what I'm giving up before I buy. > Cheers, > Donna > > >> On Feb 24, 2019, at 8:16 AM, lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Wow it sucks that they were trying so hard to sell you the latest and >> greatest. Kind of pushy I say. >> >> On 2/24/19, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> Hey Mark, >>> >>> Yeah, the four speakers almost got me to buy a pro. That would be pretty >>> amazing. >>> >>> The standard also has touch ID, and from what I've read online, the >>> differences in speed aren't that significant. so the speakers and the smart >>> connector were the only things that made me want the pro. And I decided >>> that though those things are cool, they're not $300 worth of cool, at least >>> for me. :) >>> Cheers, >>> Donna >>> >>>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:38 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello Donna. >>>> >>>> Wow! Good for you. Congratulations on your new iPad. >>>> >>>> I purchased an iPad Pro 10.5 inch. >>>> >>>> I purchased the Pro because I wanted faster speed, along with TouchID and >>>> the ability to use the Apple Smart keyboard. Also, Pro has four amazing >>>> speakers. >>>> >>>> Now because of a home office computer catastrophe that has since been >>>> resolved, even though I've owned my iPad since Monday, I've only spent >>>> about 2 hours working with it, so far. >>>> >>>> I'll tell you that, while I love the sound quality of the device and the >>>> display is amazing, I'm having a bit of a problem getting used to >>>> VoiceOver on the larger display. >>>> >>>> I don't like the split screen effect which, when I look at it with my >>>> eyes, makes sense. From a blindness perspective, however, I prefer >>>> iPhone, so far. >>>> >>>> What I mean by the split screen effect is the fact that when you land on >>>> General settings, on the left side of the display, all of the sub items >>>> are located to the right. I get it, I just don't like it because it feels >>>> as though I am compelled to use both hands to navigate. >>>> >>>> Also, I cannot, as yet, get used to holding the device. I'm so used to >>>> holding iPhone in my left hand and using my left thumb to navigate the >>>> display. However, with the size of iPad, my left hand gets so very tired, >>>> very quickly. >>>> >>>> By the way, I have the recently released iPad 128 in the house, also and >>>> there is definitely a speed difference between the 128, which was recently >>>> released and iPad Pro 10.5. The 128, is noticeably slower, in my opinion. >>>> It should be, the cost is around $250 as opposed to $1000 for iPad Pro >>>> 256GB. >>>> >>>> It's funny, when I went to Apple on Monday, they did virtually everything >>>> in their power to convince me not to buy iPad Pro 10.5, with cellular. >>>> >>>> They were really pushing the latest iPad Pro and they even went so far as >>>> to push iPad 128. >>>> >>>> In fact, I went through 5 sales people, re-entering the store 4 times, >>>> before I found someone from whom I felt comfortable buying iPad Pro 10.5. >>>> >>>> One sales person advised that I not buy iPad Pro 10.5, go home, think >>>> about it, then come back and buy the latest iPad Pro. I told all of them >>>> that I had absolutely no intention of buying anything with FaceID, at this >>>> time. >>>> >>>> One more thing, I am finding it extremely difficult and frustrating using >>>> the onscreen keyboard with VoiceOver. In fact, in many instances, I am >>>> using the Apple Smart keyboard to enter passwords and search terms >>>> although I, so far, am not a big fan of the Smart keyboard, either. In >>>> short, the iPad onscreen keyboard looks markedly different from iPhone. I >>>> did not expect this. >>>> >>>> In so many ways, it feels as though I am having to re-learn iOS; something >>>> I definitely didn't expect. >>>> >>>> Be this as it may, I am in this for the long run and will definitely keep >>>> my iPad Pro 10.5. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] >>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:20 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad? >>>> >>>> Well, I'm now the proud owner of a 2018 iPad, and a Logictech keyboard >>>> case. This sets a record for my most expensive impulse buy. Feeling very >>>> glad for BestBuy's two-week return policy. lol >>>> >>>> Guess I'm off to play! >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:03 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I need to set this up again when I find a victim, err, a volunteer, so I >>>>> can make some practice runs and make sure I csan do this on the fly. The >>>>> Focus Blue 5th as made this so simple and so far I like the wauy it all >>>>> works. For this I use the Drafts app because it opens directly to the >>>>> text field. >>>>> >>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were >>>>> true? >>>>> >>>>>> On 2/23/2019 8:49 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>> Hey ET, >>>>>> That’s an interesting set up. I’ve always hated having to choose between >>>>>> a braille display and a qwerty keyboard, so that actually sounds kind of >>>>>> attractive. Thanks. >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 10:38 AM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are ready now, there is no reason to wait for a new model. >>>>>>> If everyone was to wait for the next generation, they may as well, >>>>>>> well, wait forever. (smiles) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have the mini 4. Its main purpose is as a backup should something >>>>>>> happen to my hearing. Its in a case with a qwerty keyboard. Pair the >>>>>>> mini with a braille display and I can communicate with others. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't use it much currently but that will change. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard... >>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com >>>>>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were >>>>>>> true? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2/23/2019 7:48 AM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>>> Thanks. I'll check out 9-5 Mac and see what I can learn. But since I >>>>>>>> envision the iPad being a very secondary device, I'm not sure I need >>>>>>>> the latest and greatest. >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2019, at 9:34 AM, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2 things. First, if you're considering an iPad, I would hold off as >>>>>>>>> if your looking at a mini, apple says they are releasing an iPad mini >>>>>>>>> 5th gen some time this year. I think 9-5 mac has articles suggesting >>>>>>>>> such. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Second. The iPad mini is good for the simple fact that it is only >>>>>>>>> about 7 inches and is great as a small device if you do not have a >>>>>>>>> laptop and you can always get a keyboard to use with it if you do not >>>>>>>>> have one already. I would be interested in other people's thought as >>>>>>>>> well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Matthew >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 8:59 AM >>>>>>>>> To: 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries >>>>>>>>> <Macvisionaries@Googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Any good reason to own both an iPhone and an iPad? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> OK, so Mark has re-awakened the bug in me, and I'm thinking about >>>>>>>>> buying an iPad mini. But I'd like to do a sensibility check first. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've been curious about learning Swift ever since Apple released >>>>>>>>> Swift Playgrounds. However, my interest is largely as a hobby, I >>>>>>>>> don't see myself suddenly embarking on a career as an app developer. >>>>>>>>> With that in mind, I'm wondering if buying an iPad is just a silly >>>>>>>>> expensive purchase. Other than the Swift Playgrounds issue, I've >>>>>>>>> always felt like an iPad would just be redundant, since I have no >>>>>>>>> need whatsoever for the extra screen real-estate. so here's my >>>>>>>>> question. Do any of you own both an iPhone and an iPad? If so, what >>>>>>>>> is the value of having both devices? 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