Hi, I wish I could redefine default keyboard commands. Like VO-Backslash. Impossible to do on a Danish keyboard, as you need Option for backslash. Oh, and I wish my bank site was accessible. It is on Windows for the most part, but VO doesn't like it and the site recommends that I use Safari.
Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Feb 12, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > See you learn something new every day, even this old grumpy man. Have to > redefine keyboard shortcuts though, i can't use existing ones due to the > keyboard layout of a swedish keyboard. This isn't VOs fault though. > /Krister > > > 12 feb 2010 kl. 12.00 skrev Scott Howell: > >> I would also point out that if you use the Web Spot feature, it is quite >> accurate indeed. I have a sweet spot set for a number of locations on the >> banking website I use and it surely is the greatest thing for making >> navigation of a site efficient. I have it setup so as soon as the page >> loads, I'm on the location to enter my login info. Once I'm logged in, I am >> immediately on the list of accounts and on the balance information. If folks >> have not really explored the possibilities of Web/sweet spots, do yourself a >> favor and give them a try, they are very useful. >> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> If I may, I would like to point out that all navigation through elements on >>> a web page can be done with one hand and you don't need to remember a lot >>> of keys. When in dom. mode, press the left and right arrows at the same >>> time to enter quick nav mode. Now, press the left-up or right-up to cycle >>> through the navigation items in the roter. Then, navigate through the >>> chosen element with the up or down keys. >>> >>> As far as returning to the prior place in a web page, I have not found it >>> to be non existent. There are many times that it works, although, I would >>> like to see it work more consistently. I haven't found any screen reader >>> do it very well. >>> >>> I would also like to say that I never found any of the vo key strokes to be >>> difficult and I never understood why some people seemed to have such a >>> hang-up with them. There are some circumstances where one might need to >>> perform a task with only one hand, and I think that it was some what of a >>> legitimate concern earlier on. As I pointed out however, that issue has >>> been addressed with quick nav. >>> >>> >>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Scott, >>>> I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the differences >>>> between moving around on a page among elements with Window Eyes or Jaws >>>> and Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much difference between >>>> pressing h by itself or pressing 3 additional keys in addition to h to >>>> move among headers. And you say this is easily done with one hand? You >>>> must have amazing hands. I can no way do that. I've been touch typing for >>>> decades. It gets even more interesting when you add the shift into the mix >>>> to go up the page in reverse order. Doable? yes? As easy as pressing one >>>> key? Not by a long shot. Are there other benefits, such as not having to >>>> go in and out of forms mode? for sure. The added functionality for VO on >>>> the web in Snow Leopard is one of the main reasons I decided to try a Mac. >>>> I really appreciate the numpad commander, although learning it was not as >>>> intuitive as learning mnemonics on the regular keyboard. In no way is the >>>> rotor as efficient for me as having that array of single letter keystrokes >>>> that let me move among various web elements at will. Another thing I hope >>>> can be implemented in the future is a means of letting focus return to >>>> where it was when you return back to a previously visited page. That's a >>>> big time saver with the Windows screen readers, although it doesn't >>>> always work. Its nonexistent with vo. I like the fact that pages seem to >>>> load faster with Safari than they do with IE and a screen reader. Over >>>> all, for me, the Windows experience is still more efficient. But there are >>>> pluses with the Mac, and I'm hoping it will keep improving. Group mode is >>>> something I have tried and dropped. I just never found a page where it >>>> seemed to offer any advantage, since I don't really care how the page is >>>> laid out. I want info and where it is on the page just doesn't seem very >>>> important to me, so long as I can get to it efficiently. Maybe I don't go >>>> to the right sites where group mode's benefits are displayed to best >>>> advantage. >>>> >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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